Oh, yeah, baby, it's snakalicious in here.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Jan 02, 2006 8:45:01 pm PST #6884 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Of course the ape dies. What the hell did she think she was watching?

I found myself not nearly as sympathetic to the ape as Jackson meant me to be, because of the volume of collateral death. It's a tricky balance, and I don't think they managed it all that well.


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2006 8:45:42 pm PST #6885 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The woman was so fucking annoying. It was a day of irritating podcasts, of scientists talking about research without enough detail ("Women's self image was more improved by actual progress in their physical strength, not just their perceived progress." Dude, I need methodology, because you sure made it sound like everyone actually knew their increases in physical strength). This AI/theology woman kept going on and on about why people fear or crave AIs, and the minute a caller introduced a new idea (creating artificial intelligence as an act of worship) she not only got too broad in her generalisations (isn't now a good time to mention Muslim prohibition of representing the human form in worship?) she also refused to respond further because she'd never thought of it before.

Sorry about taking you offscript, dearie.

eta:

What the hell did she think she was watching?

Yeah, she was annoying too. By collateral damage, do you mean the number of innocents who died in the rampage? How does that compare to the other two movies? Did PJ give into his lust for spectacle and up the body count past the originals?


aurelia - Jan 02, 2006 8:52:17 pm PST #6886 of 10002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

The park acreage thing is interesting. I grew up hearing this:

With its massive expanse of 1,769 acres, which encompass the Kansas City Zoo and Sprint IMAX Theatre as well as the 7,795-seat Starlight Theatre, Swope Park is the second-largest city park in the United States.

I've never heard what they considered to be the largest though.


Consuela - Jan 02, 2006 9:26:28 pm PST #6887 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

By collateral damage, do you mean the number of innocents who died in the rampage? How does that compare to the other two movies? Did PJ give into his lust for spectacle and up the body count past the originals?

Yes, don't know, and yes. Kong does a lot more chewing on people in the first movie, but they don't try to make him sympathetic. And the New York sequences in the new movie show lots and lots of people dying, not to mention anyone who was near the building when Kong finally fell. So I had difficulties in reconciling all that. Sure, I felt bad about the last of his kind thing, but I didn't really feel it was inappropriate to kill a huge wild animal that was rampaging through the city stomping on people.

I've never heard what they considered to be the largest though.

When I lived in Portland, they always claimed Forest Park was the largest wilderness park in an American city, whatever that means. It's pretty damned huge: you could get seriously lost in it for days, I suspect.


JenP - Jan 02, 2006 9:26:50 pm PST #6888 of 10002

Have any of you had a Monastery Fruitcake from Holy Cross Abbey? They are supposed to be excellent.

Yep. I'm not much for fruitcake (so far, anyway), but I did taste it, and it was good. The family who like fruitcake all liked it very much and order it every other year or so. I mean, monk-made cake. Who can resist that?


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2006 9:31:31 pm PST #6889 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I felt bad about the last of his kind thing, but I didn't really feel it was inappropriate to kill a huge wild animal that was rampaging through the city stomping on people.

He was being chased! He should have lived happily ever after with his human bride!

Sorry, I'm morphing into that other woman.

The necessity of the whole thing made it sadder for me. Internal conflict, yadda yadda.


Consuela - Jan 02, 2006 9:35:09 pm PST #6890 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

The necessity of the whole thing made it sadder for me.

Yeah, it was tragic because Kong was more sympathetic -- but again I kept losing the sympathy with the rampaging violence. A little less rampage and I might have been on board with the sympathy.

::shrugs:: I still enjoyed the movie, even if it was bloated and self-indulgent. And I could have lived the rest of my life without seeing the penis dentata scene, as one of my LJ friends phrased it. Ewww.


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2006 9:40:40 pm PST #6891 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Most savage urethra ever! I could have done without a lot of the creature fight scenes, really. And as was noted elsewhere, a lot of the character development of secondary characters turned out to be wasted. I coulda made that movie under two and a half hours, easy.


JenP - Jan 02, 2006 9:40:58 pm PST #6892 of 10002

Ew. And I haven't even seen it yet. Saw Brokeback last night. It does stay with a person, doesn't it? Random bits and pieces kept popping into my head all day.

Must for sleep now. I took a long nap late in the day. Bad, bad idea.


Consuela - Jan 02, 2006 9:58:10 pm PST #6893 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Definitely shoulda been 40 minutes shorter. They could have save about ten of that on the death scene alone...