I'm all up in the law now, but damn it feels good to get my violence on.

Gunn ,'Unleashed'


Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


bon bon - Dec 21, 2005 2:10:37 pm PST #4264 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I rarely tip under 20% because no matter what kind of service you provide it is expensive to live in NYC. Plus the waiter has to tip out to the people who actually do all the work, the busboys.


beth b - Dec 21, 2005 2:11:11 pm PST #4265 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

kitchen screw ups - I am pretty forgiving about. forgetting my table, that's a bit harder for me to deal with.


DawnK - Dec 21, 2005 2:11:26 pm PST #4266 of 10002
giraffe mode

My parents managed/owned a restaurant for almost 40 years. I tend to overtip out of empathy BUT I also don't put up with bad waitstaff (ie, attitude or cold food)


dcp - Dec 21, 2005 2:12:05 pm PST #4267 of 10002
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

sarameg - Dec 21, 2005 2:12:27 pm PST #4268 of 10002

See, around here, 15% is standard, and I usually round to 20% because easier math. But I will go lower for horrendous service that is within the server's control. Like the time I had to be my own server, even getting our meal from the kitchen while the pompous little twit chatted up all his friends. He took our order, throwing attitude the whole time and that was it.

The bill for the table was nearly $100. We left a penny. And complained to the manager the next day.


Jessica - Dec 21, 2005 2:17:50 pm PST #4269 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Also, if you look at the complaints on the site, most of the tips listed are under 10%, which is shitty by anyone's definition. (Assuming that the waitstaff posting are being honest about the quality of service they provided, natch.)


beth b - Dec 21, 2005 2:18:06 pm PST #4270 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Thinking about it, even being forgotten can be forgiven if the waiter brings it up first. And, I figure everyone can have a bad day. However the guy in sarameg's tale - that's bad.


Spidra Webster - Dec 21, 2005 2:24:27 pm PST #4271 of 10002
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

I really hate our tipping system here. I think it's unfair to the workers and to the customers. I believe that employers ought to be paying their workers a living wage. Then let me know upfront on the menu what prices that can support a living wage for the workers are. If I can afford to, I'll eat there. If I can't, I won't. I tip 15% and always thought that was standard. If 20% is now standard, I'll have to do even less eating out than I do now.


Emily - Dec 21, 2005 2:24:33 pm PST #4272 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

In my opinion, 15% is the paycheck. Good service gets you over that. If you're really, really lousy, I might go a bit below, but not much. This doesn't mean I'll put up with crap, either, but I've certainly been one of those waitresses bitching about the lousy tips.


Emily - Dec 21, 2005 2:27:08 pm PST #4273 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Spidra, I'm with you. Well, mostly. I mean, the opportunity to earn really good tips can be an enticement, but (particularly at the lower-end restaurants) what you mostly get is cheap tippers and sometimes people who take tips from your other tables. Might have been better off with minimum wage.