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Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Dec 12, 2005 7:20:29 am PST #1289 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Do I want a $50 cash bonus from a client, or do I want a raffle ticket for a new Ford Mustang?


Jesse - Dec 12, 2005 7:20:53 am PST #1290 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

It would be pretty hard to do product placement on BSG.

OK, Starbuck did ...

Obvious!!


Dana - Dec 12, 2005 7:22:32 am PST #1291 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Take the cash, Tom.


Jessica - Dec 12, 2005 7:23:13 am PST #1292 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

like whatever [omitted] in Gilmore Girls

Yup -- it made such total sense for the plot and characters to mention it by brand name, it didn't even ping me as product placement until you mentioned it.

It would be pretty hard to do product placement on BSG.

I wonder if this is why most network sci-fi shows take place in alternate-nows, rather than on spaceships (Star Trek being the obvious exception). Without product placement, all the revenue has to come from ads, making it tougher to make money off them.


§ ita § - Dec 12, 2005 7:24:59 am PST #1293 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wonder if this is why most network sci-fi shows take place in alternate-nows, rather than on spaceships

It probably also keeps production costs down, what with costuming and sets being less...uh, some word like "unique" except that you can be less it.


Jessica - Dec 12, 2005 7:26:33 am PST #1294 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It probably also keeps production costs down

Oh, definitely that too. But I wonder if the lack of product placement adds to the financial stress on the network in any appreciable way.


tommyrot - Dec 12, 2005 7:27:25 am PST #1295 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Take the cash, Tom.

Yeah, I'm not that much of a gambling man....

I wonder if this is why most network sci-fi shows take place in alternate-nows, rather than on spaceships (Star Trek being the obvious exception).

Well, special effects and set construction would add a lot of costs to a sci-fi in space show. (eta: xpost)

BSG recently purchased the sets from a cancelled pilot - it was the only way they could afford to, um... do some stuff this season (too lazy to whitefont).


Theodosia - Dec 12, 2005 7:27:46 am PST #1296 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There was also a Ford Fusion featured in a recent episode of Smallville. Given that the town is probably the car crash capitol of the US (if not the world -- how many cars have the Kents gone through in the run of the show?), really was this a good placement?


TomW - Dec 12, 2005 7:28:21 am PST #1297 of 10002
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

It's easy to do a Star Trek product placement episode. You just do a time travel episode where meddling aliens from the 30th century try to destroy the federation by sabotaging the sponsor's product.

"But without the powerful torque of the Ford F-150, humanity would never have survived the Eugenics Wars!"

"I know. Their plan is devilish in its devilishness..."


Jesse - Dec 12, 2005 7:29:30 am PST #1298 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

"Wow, where'd you dig up that old relic?" "I KNOW! I didn't think there were any of these old Ford F-150s left anymore."

Also, there's always the holodeck.