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Natter 41: Why Do I Click on ita's Links?!  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nilly - Dec 11, 2005 3:50:30 am PST #1023 of 10002
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Oh, ita, how irritating! I was coming here to whine, but now I've lost all my whinyness on behalf on being angry for you.

Which, here too, goes to woo-hooing Jesse.

[Edit: and saying hello to the new thread, just under 1kb of posts numbers.]


§ ita § - Dec 11, 2005 3:51:31 am PST #1024 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, I calmed down mid-ratting out to check my voice mail and assure there isn't a reasonable explanation waiting on it for me.

There's not.

Back to e-mail...


Jesse - Dec 11, 2005 4:00:53 am PST #1025 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You know, ita, I heard there was a jackhole award being organized on lj.... Maybe you need to nominate someone?

Hey Nilly! Whyfore whiny?


Nilly - Dec 11, 2005 4:02:19 am PST #1026 of 10002
Swouncing

There's not.

Hey, *I* am still angry on your behalf.

Whyfore whiny?

t whine The computer that was supposed to be fixed last week (after keeping up with freezing on me, making me lose weeks of data and results), works now slower than it used to, lost a directory which I can hardly work without, and all the (little that it had) Hebrew fonts, so I can't even read e-mails from students. On top of that, the people who were supposed to deliver the stove postponed the delivery from a week (like it says on their website) to two weeks, so we won't be able to cook anything until Friday, at least. And I didn't even finish half the grading I had to finish for last week t /whine t /for now, at least


§ ita § - Dec 11, 2005 4:06:13 am PST #1027 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In-my-life life jackholes...

You know, all this makes me upset about me too. Because I can't deal with stress right now -- it just makes me physically ill. And I can barely make it through a 40 hour work week in the office. I don't want to have to feel bad about saying "You're the adults. I'm just the project manager. Good luck, and update me when you're done." so I can sit around for my only free day in a week, a day when hanging out with my best friend tires me so much and so self-consciously.

I know that's not a lot to ask for, but I haven't yet ditched the "well, maybe if I'd called repeatedly someone would have admitted to me that they hadn't checked stuff out" guilt/anxiety.

Grownups, right? When did I become more grownup than other gainfully employed people? That wasn't supposed to happen.

And I'm the one that's going to be on the receiving end of a come-to-Jesus talk for all this, and for not showing enough initiative. I don't have any left. What I have instead is a migraine at five o'clock on a Sunday morning. It's not a fair trade.

Nilly-- those aren't whines. Those are gripes. Don't feel self-conscious.


Jesse - Dec 11, 2005 4:08:59 am PST #1028 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I don't want to have to feel bad about saying "You're the adults. I'm just the project manager. Good luck, and update me when you're done."

I know this doesn't necessarily help, but you really shouldn't feel bad about that. Would it help if I told you that I learned in my Project Management class that a key aspect of a successful project is having staff members who can do their jobs without handholding? Because I did.

And goodness, Nilly, what a pile of crap to deal with! You whine all you want.


Nilly - Dec 11, 2005 4:09:42 am PST #1029 of 10002
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ita, is there a way to at least make the not-enough-initiative-talk people realize that this has absolutely nothing to do with what you can or can't do? That it's other people dropping the ball despite everything you did, not because of it?

Grr, that's so unfair! Imagine-the-face-in-krav-in-order-to-kick sort of unfair!


§ ita § - Dec 11, 2005 4:14:01 am PST #1030 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I learned in my Project Management class that a key aspect of a successful project is having staff members who can do their jobs without handholding? Because I did.

I learnt that too. And so did the person who's going to give me a talking to. Apparently that doesn't count.

It's like being a bigger sister all over again, but without the bonds of blood. I need to cope for everyone else. Fuck that. I'm tired, and I'm weak, and I'm plain not well. I just hate bringing that up, as much as I hate the "Well, I'm surrounded by incompetents!" because they both sound so much like ducking responsibility.

See, I am an older sister, the sort who had coping-for-other drilled deep into her subconscious. It's a hard habit to break.

But I don't cope for my sister anymore, and my manager is not my mother. Wish that made it easier to get over it.


Jesse - Dec 11, 2005 4:17:47 am PST #1031 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Would documenting help? For you, if not for your higher-ups?


Nilly - Dec 11, 2005 4:19:31 am PST #1032 of 10002
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they both sound so much like ducking responsibility

But, wait - you've done all you can, right? So what exactly are you ducking?

There are times when even the worst seemingly-excuses are actually reasons.

But, as an older sister myself, I totally understand where you're coming from. Still, these people are not your responsibility. You have indeed done what was your share.