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Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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Frankenbuddha - Jan 26, 2006 6:11:41 am PST #938 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I wonder why Locke kicked him to the curb with such violence? I could have easily seen him zone Charlie out or use C's slipping mind to his advantage.

Except Saurman punched him in the face and left him bleeding on the beach.

Hmm. Maybe he's breaking Charlie down so that if he ever decides he wants to use him, Charlie will be so greatful he won't ask any questions. Sort of how he broke Boone down and got more control over him, but in a very different fashion.

Certainly the very public meltdown pretty much took away any other possible "mentor" to whom Charlie might have switched his allegiance.


TomW - Jan 26, 2006 6:13:32 am PST #939 of 5968
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

Heh, from the the TWOP recaplet:

"Maybe this is as good a measure as any as to how dissatisfied I was with this episode: when Locke punches Charlie at the end, I didn't even enjoy it. You know where I stand on punching Charlie vs. not punching Charlie. What you might not know is that I've pitched to ABC a Lost spin-off called Punching Charlie: The Series (I'm waiting to hear back)."


Sean K - Jan 26, 2006 7:07:40 am PST #940 of 5968
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I was.... Disappointed. Charlie (who I used to like) was Captain Whiney McWhineypants. But even more than that, the storyline I was hoping for, that I thought the previews were hinting at, didn't happen. I thought Charlie was going to steal the baby and run off to join the others. I wanted to see that because it would have meant that it's not an "us v. them" thing going on. It would have meant that any one of them could turn and join the others at any time, and that perhaps all of them would eventually succumb. Or die.

That would have been freaky-scary.


Cashmere - Jan 26, 2006 8:28:32 am PST #941 of 5968
Now tagless for your comfort.

I was extremely disappointed with this episode. I didn't think we needed that much more Charlie backstory. And Locke should have hit him harder.

If they wanted to make a baby in jep storyline, they could have done it more clearly. The Others obviously have a strong interest in children and babies. Why wouldn't EVERYONE, including Claire take that information and NEVER turn her back on her kid??

As as for the alarm in the hatch not being conducive to a baby sleeping through the night--um, baby is less than two months old. He ain't sleeping through the night anyway. He should be somewhere safer than on the beach.


Sean K - Jan 26, 2006 8:33:22 am PST #942 of 5968
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I didn't think we needed that much more Charlie backstory.

I'm worried that now they've locked themselves into an Island Story/Flashback Story format, and there just isn't that much new information to reveal in the backstories. I'm sure that there is new material left, just not enough to sustain the format long-term, and I think it's already starting to show.


Steph L. - Jan 26, 2006 8:39:58 am PST #943 of 5968
I look more rad than Lutheranism

there just isn't that much new information to reveal in the backstories.

Well, I imagine a Libby backstory is in the offing, b/c of the "Do I know you from somewhere?" conversation.

We know Kate was married, and unless I'm really forgetting something, I don't think we got backstory on that.

We still don't know how Locke ended up in a wheelchair.

And then there's island-related stuff, like -- what the hell happened to Claire when she was on sabbatical with the Others? Where the fuck is Desmond? What up with Rousseau? And OMGWTFPOLARBEAR?

And one last thing I remembered from last night's ep -- when Libby and Hurley were doing laundry, Libby said "Are these machines newer than the rest of the stuff?" I think that's something that's going to come back up, related to the Dharma project thingy.

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I'm sure that there is new material left, just not enough to sustain the format long-term, and I think it's already starting to show.

ITA. I can't imagine what the creators could come up with for a third season.


Kathy A - Jan 26, 2006 8:40:49 am PST #944 of 5968
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

ITA, Sean. When I realized that Charlie's inital "flashback" was actually a dream, I thought "What a brilliant way to segue out of that rut!" But, then they had to throw in a real flashback.

Oh, well, better luck next time.


le nubian - Jan 26, 2006 8:47:03 am PST #945 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Here's my new Libby theory (I am not spoiled for this)...

I think Libby is not a psychologist/psychiatrist. I think she was a patient. With Hurley.


Nora Deirdre - Jan 26, 2006 8:53:26 am PST #946 of 5968
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I think Libby's trying to hide something, due to launching into the sweaty foot stomping story immediately after he said that to make him burn in shame and get distracted. I wonder why it didn't ping him earlier. Also, the way that line "Don't I know you from somewhere" was sort of weird, like, that's something you say when you first lay eyes on someone. It almost sounded like he was amnesiatic temporarily, or something snapped into conciousness. Kind of strange.

Also, yes, the washer/dryer thing. Totally.


Jessica - Jan 26, 2006 8:56:00 am PST #947 of 5968
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm sure that there is new material left, just not enough to sustain the format long-term, and I think it's already starting to show.

I'm not sure. I feel like with as many characters as they have, there are a TON of untold backstories they could be going through. But for some reason, we're stuck in a Charlie/Jack/Kate rut. Hurley, Claire, Sawyer, and Sayid are all WAY overdue.