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Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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-t - May 13, 2010 8:41:28 am PDT #5703 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

So, all that was supposed to be several thousand years ago? I did not get that. I actually thought that this episode was telling me that Jacob was a lot more recent than I had previously believed.


Frankenbuddha - May 13, 2010 8:54:17 am PDT #5704 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So, all that was supposed to be several thousand years ago? I did not get that. I actually thought that this episode was telling me that Jacob was a lot more recent than I had previously believed.

I read somewhere that the game Jacob and Smokey were playing was Senet which was an acient Egyptian game (Wikipedia says it may be the oldest board game that we know about, something I also remember Laurence Olivier's character in Sleuth mentioning).


Dana - May 13, 2010 8:55:05 am PDT #5705 of 5968
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

They were speaking Latin at the beginning, weren't they?


le nubian - May 13, 2010 9:02:26 am PDT #5706 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Given that they spoke Latin and referred to the use of ships, etc., that a game from Egypt was on the ship, the time this took place could be anywhere from around 400 BCE to the 5th century, I guess.

I'm not sure if anyone can narrow it down further from that. I just don't think we have more clues on which to narrow.


-t - May 13, 2010 9:06:15 am PDT #5707 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Could have been. Which still puts it not as ancient as I was thinking before, so, maybe I just overcorrected in the recent direction.

I'm trying to pin down why I had that misapprehension and I can't, really. Probably just me getting it wrong


Hayden - May 13, 2010 9:19:11 am PDT #5708 of 5968
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Well, the mummification of the corpses was a counter-indicator of the episode's "meanwhile, two thousand years ago..." approach. They should have been nothing but dust after all that time exposed to the elements.


-t - May 13, 2010 9:22:16 am PDT #5709 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm getting that "several thousand years" from the interview Cindy linked, btw. Probably should have contextualized that when I brought it up.


sumi - May 13, 2010 9:29:48 am PDT #5710 of 5968
Art Crawl!!!

While the Allison Janney character may have been there for a couple of thousand years, I really didn't think that the boys had been. I mean, when did Spanish develop as a language separate from Latin and whatever the original Spanish people spoke?

On the other hand, I think that the Island has too many time oddities to make a straightforward chronology possible.


le nubian - May 13, 2010 9:37:09 am PDT #5711 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The wiki page on Senet (the board game that appeared) has some very interesting details about the game and its significance:

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It was found in graves dating from about 1500BC. Thing is, where the game and Latin would coexist would be closer to 400 BC, IMO. I'm not sure the game was around for those thousand years in between though.


-t - May 13, 2010 9:44:10 am PDT #5712 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

On the other hand, I think that the Island has too many time oddities to make a straightforward chronology possible.

That's a good point. Once the donkey wheel was built, who knows what might have happened.

If Allison Janney really did leave the Senet board for the kid to find, it wouldn't have to be contemporaneous with the ship people. She could have had it for a long time.

Were they speaking Spanish? I thought so initially, but my ear for languages is atrocious