That's beautiful. Or taken literally, incredibly gross.

Buffy ,'Potential'


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le nubian - May 13, 2010 9:37:09 am PDT #5711 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

The wiki page on Senet (the board game that appeared) has some very interesting details about the game and its significance:

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It was found in graves dating from about 1500BC. Thing is, where the game and Latin would coexist would be closer to 400 BC, IMO. I'm not sure the game was around for those thousand years in between though.


-t - May 13, 2010 9:44:10 am PDT #5712 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

On the other hand, I think that the Island has too many time oddities to make a straightforward chronology possible.

That's a good point. Once the donkey wheel was built, who knows what might have happened.

If Allison Janney really did leave the Senet board for the kid to find, it wouldn't have to be contemporaneous with the ship people. She could have had it for a long time.

Were they speaking Spanish? I thought so initially, but my ear for languages is atrocious


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 13, 2010 9:47:01 am PDT #5713 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Were they speaking Spanish? I thought so initially, but my ear for languages is atrocious

I thought it was Latin. It wasn't Spanish as far as I could hear - but then my Spanish is basic.

Reading up on the game of senet. It's thought to be the ancestor of backgammon. Huh.


Dana - May 13, 2010 9:56:44 am PDT #5714 of 5968
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I'm pretty sure it was Latin. Or, at least, it was supposed to be Latin, though some of the pronunciation might have been dubious.


Theodosia - May 13, 2010 10:03:10 am PDT #5715 of 5968
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Latin was a lingua franca for a long time, too. "CJ" could have been around since ancient days, and had it for her native language, until Claudia was shipwrecked in more modern times....

(My roommate's uncle, a nice Irish Catholic boy from Boston, was with a lost patrol in WWII Algeria, and was able to get aid & directions from a small mission of native Catholic nuns... the only language they had in common was Church Latin.)


erin_obscure - May 14, 2010 2:42:03 am PDT #5716 of 5968
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

they were speaking Latin before switching to English...i can only assume for our ease in understanding. Or maybe that was when the realized they both spoke and understood the same language? Up till the last century everyone with an education learned Latin as a base, so educated folks from all over the world could communicate to an extent via Latin even if they didn't share a spoken language.

Claudia's garment and hair were pretty darned Hellenistic, so i'd buy 400BC for Jacob's birth-era.

eta: heh, maybe i should have read all the comments. Bit of an overlap.


-t - May 15, 2010 3:21:37 pm PDT #5717 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

There's discussion in Lightbulbs about setting an end date for this thread. Go and discuss if you have an opinion (maybe even if you don't).


Jon B. - May 16, 2010 1:53:47 pm PDT #5718 of 5968
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

If Allison Janney really did leave the Senet board for the kid to find

I assumed she just said that because she didn't want the boys to know that any other humans existed.


Topic!Cindy - May 16, 2010 5:43:32 pm PDT #5719 of 5968
What is even happening?

Per Mark Pellegrino, at least part of the episode takes place in 43 A.D. From other things I've read (that I've absorbed but not noted), Claudia landed on the island about 1 A.D. I explain this in the recap (which has been filed and should be up tomorrow).

Latin was the lingua franca of the western provinces. Koine Greek was the lingua franca of the eastern ones. There's a whole other bunch of stuff, too. I don't think the episode meant to give specific answers about it, though. This is an origin myth. It tells you what it tells you, but it never intends to tell you everything.

Seska, the episode grew on me as I wrote it up (which is unusual -- usually I hate the best of episodes by the time I'm done). I'l link to the recap, tomorrow. It's a long one, though.


Laura - May 17, 2010 2:52:04 am PDT #5720 of 5968
Our wings are not tired.

Thanks, Cindy. I wish I enjoyed the show as much as I enjoy your recaps.