I just watched the episode again because I missed the whole Eloise scene. She definitely knows what is going on.

And both Daniel and Charley are getting major bleed though. I think it's different with Desmond, but I'm not sure how. Eloise said he was not ready yet.

Didn't she appear in his time slipping episodes, telling him not to give the ring to Penny? What has she got against him?

Oh, Desmond, you're so dreamy.

It seems like this Eloise knows more than she should, just like the other Eloise.

I think it's the same Eloise in both universes!

Ooooh.

I agree. She is/was the leader of the Others. That must afford her some benefit/special knowledge

I like it.

Eta: I was thinking Eloise was ambiguous when Desmond was slipping through time, but I might be remembering wrong.

odd that Daniel being Widmore's son was treated like some sort of revelation. I recall that being painfully obvious in the Faraday flashbacks when he was young, still playing piano, and Widmore came over to chat with Eloise about Daniel's future. However, i had the distinct impression that Daniel and Penny were full brother/sister, sister growing up with dad and brother growing up with mom after everyone left the island. In sideways world i guess Penny is Eloise's daughter but not Charles', what with the different last name? either that or she's married.

I couldn't place the alternate identity of the driver. he looks super familiar, but who was he???

oh yeah, he was on the submarine, the bleeding guy suffering from time sickness. gosh, those were a few painful moments.

oh yeah, he was on the submarine, the bleeding guy suffering from time sickness. gosh, those were a few painful moments.

Thank you! Was it a sub though, or was it Widmore's boat?

Widmore's boat. He was in the infirmary.

Erin, Penny is not Eloise's daughter. Penny is the daughter that Widmore had "with a woman off the island." This relationship is what got him kicked off the island by Ben. He violated some rule.