You know, my big sister could really beat the crap out of her. I mean, really really.

Dawn ,'Storyteller'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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Java cat - Jan 07, 2010 6:27:03 pm PST #5065 of 5968
Not javachik

Executive producers Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof, give The Hollywood Reporter an interview - [link]

My favorite part:

Cuse: I think the one thing that's pretty certain is neither of us have a great [urge] to do something [after Lost] that's this dense, sprawling and serialized. You need to exercise different creative muscles.

Lindelof: My hope is to rip off other successful shows.

THR: Like you've been ripped off?

Lindelof: Exactly. Maybe a show about vampires that work in an ad agency and one is a serial killer.

Cuse: Especially if the lead character is also cooking meth.

Lindelof: Oh, I hadn't thought of that. Almost guaranteed an Emmy. "Breaking Bad Men."

Ha!

The 8 min. 15 second recap of Lost: [link]


Laura - Jan 07, 2010 6:27:42 pm PST #5066 of 5968
Our wings are not tired.

I can't believe I am looking forward to watching Lost again. And yet I am. I just have to see what they do with it.

Lost Supper stuff was fun.


Java cat - Jan 07, 2010 6:37:40 pm PST #5067 of 5968
Not javachik

From the vid:

..."Mr. Friendly throws like a girl." Heh.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jan 07, 2010 10:50:21 pm PST #5068 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Re-watching Lost from the beginning, at this point, is turning out to be a fascinating experience. Tiny speculation: I think they've already given us the 'how' of the entire show, with the ending of season five; the final season will be about the 'why'. Sort of. I think. Man, do I hope they close all the plot loopholes and don't leave any loose ends hanging.


le nubian - Jan 08, 2010 4:44:16 am PST #5069 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Some of those loopholes will be left hanging. They have said as much. I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm not going to get all the answers that I want and the answers I do get may not be satisfactory.

I've been a little dismayed with all the articles about "Lost" I've read that focuses on how important the CHARACTERS are when apparently I am one of the few who cares about plot. If they cared that much about characters, they wouldn't have been so inconsistent: they eviscerated Kate, fucked up Jack and made him do really questionable things for no reason, and killed off people who were really interesting.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jan 08, 2010 5:30:44 am PST #5070 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm not going to get all the answers that I want and the answers I do get may not be satisfactory.

I'm not expecting that the plot will be resolved solely to make me happy (I didn't stop watching BtVS when Tara was killed off), but they surely realise that their viewers will expect it to make at least some kind of sense. A poorly written/plotted ending to a show that has so much plot potential would be unbelievably frustrating. As with the end of Heroes season one, but so much worse.


le nubian - Jan 08, 2010 5:42:37 am PST #5071 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I wasn't particularly happy when Tara was killed off, but there were good arguments for the character being killed at that time. Bad Willow was really awesome. So I don't think, for my experience, that is a particularly good analogy.

I'm talking about a basic "is the shit going to make sense" sense of the satisfactory. Things can make sense and I don't like them. Fine. But Kate all the sudden becoming a dis-empowered wilting 1980s female horror movie victim? Not in character, did not make sense.

Heroes, end of Season 1 was bad, but not nearly as bad as Season 2.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jan 08, 2010 5:57:12 am PST #5072 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Yes, you're right - not the best analogy. I meant in terms of audience demanding certain things from the shows they watch, although there may be better examples of that.

I'm talking about a basic "is the shit going to make sense" sense of the satisfactory. Things can make sense and I don't like them. Fine. But Kate all the sudden becoming a dis-empowered wilting 1980s female horror movie victim? Not in character, did not make sense.

Yes, I mean along those lines, in overarching plot terms. The Girl and I debate endlessly over whether all the spookiness in Lost will be demonstrated to be scientific - in 'real world' terms of technology or politics etc - or fantastical. She's not entirely happy with the "timey-wimey" turn of events in recent seasons, as it's too much of the fantasy for her liking (although that may change before the end). At the same time, she acknowledges that it makes sense within the internal paradigm of the show. I'd probably keep watching if they decided it was all a dream that a feverish polar bear was having, if that was well-written and shown to be consistent with what had gone before. Major plot inconsistencies, especially those that mess with the internal cohesion of the world that's been created over the past five seasons, I find much more annoying. I seem to accept poor cohesion better for characters, such as in Kate's case, than in plot development. Your Kate example involves just as much poor writing, though.

Heroes, end of Season 1 was bad, but not nearly as bad as Season 2.

True, but I still had a sense of plot potential at the end of season one. That made for a bigger let-down!


le nubian - Jan 08, 2010 6:23:36 am PST #5073 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Yeah, I think I can get equally angry at inconsistent characters (especially if their actions are the source of major plot movement) - Juliet getting all upset over Sawyer and planning to set off a bomb because of it?

Wow. Not cool show. I wanted the bomb to go off though, but not because Juliet was pissed.

FWIW, I really like "Lost" and watching it from beginning to the end of Season 5 over the summer was interesting. I own the Season 1 DVDs, but I am disappointed in what the series became. It is kind of like the feeling I had toward Alias.


Java cat - Jan 08, 2010 3:35:40 pm PST #5074 of 5968
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There's a bunch more stuff at EW dot com, links are off to the side of the one posted here. This is one you can vote on. Which is the better promo, the one with Willie Nelson's Amazing Grace or the Spanish Cuatro one? [link]