Mal: Yeah, well, just be careful. We cheated Badger out of good money to buy that frippery, and you're supposed to make me look respectable. Kaylee: Yes, sir, Captain Tightpants.

'Shindig'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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-t - May 15, 2009 9:51:33 am PDT #5012 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Here's my thinking on Jack's motivation: yes, setting off a bomb and changing history because he lost Kate sounds stupid, but I think it is more of a shorthand for bigger changes in his worldview. losing Kate has become a symbol to him of bottoming out with the crazy beard and everything, and how he got out of that was to believe in Locke and getting back to the island and fulfilling his destiny. And if his destiny is to change history, well, that's just grandiose enough to make everything all right in Jack's mind.

Juliet, I feel like I understand her decisions but I don't think I can explain them. I'll have to think about it a bit more.


Frankenbuddha - May 15, 2009 9:55:46 am PDT #5013 of 5968
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Not much to say about the finale really since it is a reset.

It wouldn't be J.J. Abrahms without at least one honking big reset. I just hope this goes better than the last few on Alias.


le nubian - May 15, 2009 10:10:51 am PDT #5014 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

But see...Jack's life was a fucking mess before he ever set foot on the plane. None of them did were doing very well before getting on the plane. Sawyer definitely improved his life after the plane landed - especially the 3-4 years he was in the '70s. Sun has a child she probably wouldn't have had.

I don't see how Jack's life post-crash is that much more miserable than pre-crash. It's all part of Jack's craziness. I still like Jack's character for some odd reason, but he gets stuck and focused on a particular course and won't be dissuaded from it no matter what.

BTW, I have a strong feeling that Jacob visited Walt way back when. I wonder if we will see Walter one last time.


Polter-Cow - May 15, 2009 10:20:08 am PDT #5015 of 5968
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I still like Jack's character for some odd reason, but he gets stuck and focused on a particular course and won't be dissuaded from it no matter what.

Yeah, le nubian, I also like Jack's character, which makes us a minority in fandom, but dear God, did I want to rip his fucking face off during the finale. So freaking stubborn and pigheaded.


-t - May 15, 2009 10:34:32 am PDT #5016 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Jack's life was a fucking mess before he ever set foot on the plane.

Was it? His wife left him and his family life was far from great, but his career was in good shape and he didn't have that awful beard.

Sawyer, I will grant you, was better off on the island in the 60s than any other time.

I still want to know where Sun's baby is. Who on earth could she have left her with?


Steph L. - May 15, 2009 12:01:32 pm PDT #5017 of 5968
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I still want to know where Sun's baby is. Who on earth could she have left her with?

With her (Sun's) mother.


-t - May 15, 2009 12:12:35 pm PDT #5018 of 5968
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Sun's relationship with her father so overshadowed her mother, I forgot she existed.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 19, 2009 11:23:06 pm PDT #5019 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Saw the finale at the weekend. Kept me quite engaged for the whole double episode, which is always a good thing. I was so ready for Miles's 'we caused it' theory to be right, but with Juliet setting off the bomb, I'm not sure anymore. A complete reset would be dull (The Girl and I have been predicting one all season), but Abrams could make it work. If the plane doesn't crash and they *still* all end up back on the island, I'll be delighted.

Filling-in-the-missing-word edit.


Jon B. - May 20, 2009 3:45:54 am PDT #5020 of 5968
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

If the plane doesn't crash and they *still* all end up back on the island, I'll be delighted.

That could be satisfying, depending on how its done. It would also be a nice parallel to how Desmond could only postpone Charlie's death, not prevent it.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 20, 2009 4:57:01 am PDT #5021 of 5968
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

It would also be a nice parallel to how Desmond could only postpone Charlie's death, not prevent it.

Indeed. They've really being pushing the 'you can't change anything' line. It would be interesting to see them take that further.