Saffron: You just had a better hand of cards this time. Mal: It ain't a hand of cards. It's called a life.

'Trash'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

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Beverly - Dec 01, 2005 9:22:25 am PST #467 of 5968
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

The horse caused the car accident where Kate kicked (the) Marshall out and drove off--at least there was a flash of animal-body in the rain before they ran off the road. I assumed it was the same animal, and I think that's the impression the writers wished to give. May not have been, may just have been a random large dog or deer, and the horse is some sort of symbol for Kate.

Do you believe Sawyer's in love with Kate?

Erm. I think they have an attraction for each other that's largely physical, partly one of recognising self-guilt in the other because they each have their own, likewise a certain shiftiness of moral fiber, plus a genuine desire to do/be "good," and doubt whether or not they can be/do good. Plus, the actors are physically very attuned to each other. It reminds me a lot of the body language on BtVS when SMG and DB were mid-affair. Not that acting can't replicate that, but Holloway and Lilly do seem very simpatico on a purely physical level.


Melpomene - Dec 01, 2005 9:28:29 am PST #468 of 5968
Ever fired your gun in the air and yelled, 'Aaaaaaah?'

Found on TWoP: Screencap of Sayid on tv.


Jon B. - Dec 01, 2005 9:44:52 am PST #469 of 5968
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

at least there was a flash of animal-body in the rain before they ran off the road.

Later on in that same flashback, Kate gets a good look at the "animal-body", and it's definitely the same horse.


le nubian - Dec 01, 2005 2:42:32 pm PST #470 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

here's the thing for me: I don't think it is possible that any of the survivors thus far could be in love with anyone else they met on the flight (or during the aftermath) because they don't really know each other. How could Sawyer and Kate really be in love when Kate hasn't told Sawyer what she did? Did Sawyer tell Kate what he's been about the last 30 years? His *whole* con man thing?

Shannon & Sayid? Same thing. Hard for me to believe Shannon told Sayid all about herself.

The married couples? Different situation.


le nubian - Dec 01, 2005 2:45:22 pm PST #471 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I do think it is possible to fall in love with someone in 48 days. God knows I have.


Sheryl - Dec 01, 2005 3:23:03 pm PST #472 of 5968
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Ok, my tape cut out right after Sawyer and Kate see the horse and start to move towards it. What happened after that?


Laura - Dec 01, 2005 3:28:13 pm PST #473 of 5968
Our wings are not tired.

I don't know if Sayid loved Shannon. I don't know if Kate loves Sawyer.

It's possible. Under normal circumstances I think you can fall in love in this period of time. Under emotionally intense circumstances it may take even less time. The survivors falling in love doesn't seem out of the ordinary to me.

Ana/Locke would work for me if they are going to make the show a soap.


Laura - Dec 01, 2005 3:34:18 pm PST #474 of 5968
Our wings are not tired.

Sheryl, after they see the horse Jack makes nice with Ana Lucia. Eko brings Locke the missing piece of training tape and they watch it together. Great scene with the contrast between these two characters. The tape says that it is a might bad thing if the computer is used for anything other that the numbers. Then Michael notices that the computer has typed "Hello" and responds of course. Computer asks "Who is this?" Michael responds with his name, and the computer asks "Dad?" The end.


Jessica - Dec 01, 2005 3:36:23 pm PST #475 of 5968
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

DH and I became best friends in a month, and I was definitely in love by then even if I wasn't quite admitting it.

The Losties...I don't know. The time doesn't bug me, but I don't think we've seen any indication that these people really talk to each other. They're all protecting Deep Dark Secrets In Their Past, and so they're not getting to know each other on any kind of relationship-building level. Kate and Sawyer probably come closest -- at least they had that game of "I never."

And I believe Michael and Sun's friendship (and Michael and Jin's), and Charlie's feelings for Claire.

Honestly, Shannon/Sayid is the only one I'm unable to suspend disbelief for. Maybe I just disliked Shannon too much.


Laura - Dec 01, 2005 3:42:10 pm PST #476 of 5968
Our wings are not tired.

I had a rough time with Sayid/Shannon too, but I can accept it when I consider the unbelievable pairings I see IRL. Who knows what some people see in each other.

My wank is that Sayid had to fall in love with Shannon so we might care that she died. Personally I would have found it more emotionally upsetting if she had been killed and none of them cared.