Marco: Do we look reasonable to you? Mal: Well. Looks can be deceiving. Jayne: Not as deceiving as a low down dirty... deceiver.

'Out Of Gas'


Lost 2: Tied to a Tree in a Jungle of Mystery  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Kevin - Feb 08, 2007 12:56:18 pm PST #2811 of 5968
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

DUN DUN DUN.

I just totally went to an Eastenders place. I don't think anybody will understand me.


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2007 1:03:05 pm PST #2812 of 5968
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I understand you! My brain is now zooming out over a map of London as I type.


Kevin - Feb 10, 2007 1:25:17 pm PST #2813 of 5968
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

So, I caught up with Lost earlier. Did Entertainment Weekly really say the episode gave answers? I can't think of a single thing it answered, but I can reel off more questions it raised.


le nubian - Feb 10, 2007 1:41:07 pm PST #2814 of 5968
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Not really defending the show, just typing out loud:

Well, we know that at least one of the Others isn't there willingly. That's something we know.

We know Ethan has been a goon for a long time.

We know that someone on the island has watched "A Clockwork Orange."

that's all I got.


Theodosia - Feb 11, 2007 8:22:48 am PST #2815 of 5968
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

We know that Juliet is there unwillingly. And that whoever is running the Island had pretty freaky real-world powers to be able to set up a bus-hit to eliminate the stated reason she couldn't agree to join them.

(And why not just kidnap her if she's so important to your program? Why get her consent, even if you have to move heaven and earth, and lie to her to get it?)


Jon B. - Feb 11, 2007 8:31:56 am PST #2816 of 5968
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Do we know that the bus-hit was planned?


Kevin - Feb 11, 2007 8:38:15 am PST #2817 of 5968
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Point of interest - the conversation between Ben and Juliet at the end wasn't heard. I'd speculate the deal between Ben and Juliet is not as it seems, and Juliet is just playing Jack still.

There's no direct link between the bus hit shown.


aurelia - Feb 11, 2007 9:29:27 am PST #2818 of 5968
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Do we know that the bus-hit was planned?

No. Just Walt-style freaky and remarkably convenient for Juliet's would-be employers. And... funny.


Kevin - Feb 11, 2007 11:05:08 am PST #2819 of 5968
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Remarkably convenient for the writers, too.

I really have to stop watching Lost, as I've become one of those people who watch something to criticize it. Seriously, though - 7 episodes into the new season. The large ensemble cast has really been 95% about 3 of them. The story was, after spending the last two seasons tracking the cast aways, dressing up and studying them, The Others took them and... uhm.. Put them in confined spaces. And then they escaped. We pretty much had no real explanations about anything, but I'm sure once/if the writers stop smoking crack and doing LSD (at the same time) they might think of a reason why Kate and Sawyer were taken. Other than "THEY ARE HAWT!!!1!".

See? I need to stop watching. But, for some reason, I just can't bring myself to look away. I actually thought it was a really promising series at first, with a great dynamic between Locke and Jack, some lovely light/dark parallels and all that joy.

The problems with Lost I see aren't that difficult. You could make a ten point action plan, and improve the series immeasurably. But nobody on the production or network side seems to agree, and as a result the ratings are sliding.


Laura - Feb 11, 2007 12:11:58 pm PST #2820 of 5968
Our wings are not tired.

Locke who? Yes, they do need to get back to the main island.