It's all about choices, Faith. The ones we make, and the ones we don't. Oh, and the consequences. Those are always fun.

Angelus ,'Smile Time'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 4:09:21 pm PST #8208 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I do sound quite Manish, don't I? But it's the same thing as our community rules. Someone can swoop in from nowhere and state that they didn't know them, they didn't make them, and most importantly they don't care about them and won't follow them.

And then we boot them.

Which makes us The Man. Community is our motivation, and profit is the motivation for the casinos.

They're an optional part of my life, and I don't for a second dream they're looking out for me. As everything is laid out on paper, I think they have as much ethical claim as anyone else in business. It just plays out differently.


bon bon - Nov 30, 2005 4:24:56 pm PST #8209 of 10006
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I wouldn't necessarily call acting boorish here unethical per se. But now I think we're really getting into personal ethical standards.

I asked Bob, if in applying the categorical imperative one formulates the maxim "if everyone counted cards..." or "if everyone who could count cards counted cards..." I actually think the former maxim is still endorseable, because the odds still don't change. If betting is more accurate the casino just changes the prize to account for it. I think.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 4:34:21 pm PST #8210 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think we're really getting into personal ethical standards.

My personal ethics are in adopting the rules of the store/community/country when I cross over into it. So personal, yet impersonal.

The line I have a hard time articulating is when it's worth breaking the rule, or trying to change it. Pretty much nothing in gambling is going to make me need to stick it to the man. I have no level of ownership in either a casino or gambling as a whole. Gets much shadier when it comes to countries and communities. But it's easy to do for casinos.

I actually think the former maxim is still endorseable

And impossible.


Connie Neil - Nov 30, 2005 4:38:09 pm PST #8211 of 10006
brillig

I do sound quite Manish, don't I? But it's the same thing as our community rules. Someone can swoop in from nowhere and state that they didn't know them, they didn't make them, and most importantly they don't care about them and won't follow them.

And then we boot them.

There's still the shooting in the ass option.


sarameg - Nov 30, 2005 4:52:15 pm PST #8212 of 10006

I want someone to count cards, win millions, and then give it all to me. With which I will buy a very large ventilation fan.

Cat has special new expensive, kidney-and-liver-preserving catfood. And OH MY GOD, so far it makes his poop and farts stinkier. I may need a gas mask.


Scrappy - Nov 30, 2005 4:55:30 pm PST #8213 of 10006
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I have taken a bath and am now wearing my oh-so-snuggly, sock-monkey-design flannel pajamas. The BF is on his way home form a night in Palm Springs looking at 2007 cars and he is going to stop and pick up dinner of some sort. Life, she is good.


Laura - Nov 30, 2005 4:56:32 pm PST #8214 of 10006
Our wings are not tired.

It is probably a good thing that I don't have the brain configuration to count cards because I would have to use it. I think. It is a dilemma I won't have to confront in this lifetime.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 5:05:09 pm PST #8215 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You know, before, when I was startled at the bank Chris Rock was making for Rush Hour 3? I take it back. I have no startle left over after learning that Jennifer Aniston makes $9M a picture.


Laura - Nov 30, 2005 5:06:26 pm PST #8216 of 10006
Our wings are not tired.

That is startle draining.


sumi - Nov 30, 2005 5:15:07 pm PST #8217 of 10006
Art Crawl!!!

Wow. Ummm, are her movies that successful?

On Invasion, was that deputy who was talking to the sherrif (why is it impossible for that word to look right?) - the same actor that played the soldier on Nip/Tuck this week?