Throwing someone out for having the skill is essentially the same as telling a poker player they have too good a poker face and showing them the door.
Yeah, essentially.
Oh, I wish those council guys would let me have an hour alone in the room with her, if I was larger and had grenades.
Willow ,'Storyteller'
Natter 40: The Nice One
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
bon bon - Nov 30, 2005 12:35:58 pm PST #8135 of 10006
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 12:36:05 pm PST #8136 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I dont' understand how/why it's against the rules
It's against the rules because they say so.
As far as I'm concerned, the ethical thing to do in a situation like this is to not play -- breaking the rules someone else has every right to set (I mean, we're not talking injury or anything) isn't ethical in my book.
Understandable, sure. Ethical, nope.
I don't think it's unethical to count cards. I think it's unethical to break the casino's rules.
Yeah, essentially.
I agree. However, you've walked into their house to take their money. They get to be insane in defense of their profit. You get to bet elsewhere.
DavidS - Nov 30, 2005 12:37:37 pm PST #8137 of 10006
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I think it's unethical to break the casino's rules.
Phew, I'd never have that mindset. I barely respect society's rules.
Vortex - Nov 30, 2005 12:38:28 pm PST #8138 of 10006
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
It's like Bobby saying that Jimmy can't play football because he's better than Bobby and it's Bobby's ball.
tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 12:39:11 pm PST #8139 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I agree. However, you've walked into their house to take their money. They get to be insane in defense of their profit. You get to bet elsewhere.
Yes. When they catch you.
tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 12:39:58 pm PST #8140 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
It's like Bobby saying that Jimmy can't play football because he's better than Bobby and it's Bobby's ball.
... and Bobby doesn't want to lose all his money to Jimmy, because then Bobby's stockholders will get mad.
Trudy Booth - Nov 30, 2005 12:41:57 pm PST #8141 of 10006
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I have a friend who can count suits (I do not know the particulars, only that its not quite as accurate but is still forbidden). Once he had a broken down car, twenty bucks, and access to a riverboat casino...
He made enough to pay for dinner and a hotel and then left.
bon bon - Nov 30, 2005 12:43:18 pm PST #8142 of 10006
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I wouldn't endorse a maxim that anytime someone creates a self-interested rule it's always unethical to breach it.
§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 12:43:52 pm PST #8143 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Yes. When they catch you.
No, you still have the opportunity to bet elsewhere before you're caught. Before you count cards, even. You've just decided that your rules are more important than theirs.
Whether or not this is true, you're in a scenario where they have all the power. What's even vaguely surprising about being turfed in that scenario?
I'm not claiming some moral high ground where I follow everyone else's rules. I just know when I'm breaking them.
§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 12:44:19 pm PST #8144 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I wouldn't endorse a maxim that anytime someone creates a self-interested rule it's always unethical to breach it.
Neither would I. Which is why I caveated upthread.