Doesn't matter that we took him off that boat, Shepherd, it's the place he's going to live from now on.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Vortex - Nov 30, 2005 12:38:28 pm PST #8138 of 10006
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

It's like Bobby saying that Jimmy can't play football because he's better than Bobby and it's Bobby's ball.


tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 12:39:11 pm PST #8139 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I agree. However, you've walked into their house to take their money. They get to be insane in defense of their profit. You get to bet elsewhere.

Yes. When they catch you.


tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 12:39:58 pm PST #8140 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It's like Bobby saying that Jimmy can't play football because he's better than Bobby and it's Bobby's ball.

... and Bobby doesn't want to lose all his money to Jimmy, because then Bobby's stockholders will get mad.


Trudy Booth - Nov 30, 2005 12:41:57 pm PST #8141 of 10006
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I have a friend who can count suits (I do not know the particulars, only that its not quite as accurate but is still forbidden). Once he had a broken down car, twenty bucks, and access to a riverboat casino...

He made enough to pay for dinner and a hotel and then left.


bon bon - Nov 30, 2005 12:43:18 pm PST #8142 of 10006
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I wouldn't endorse a maxim that anytime someone creates a self-interested rule it's always unethical to breach it.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 12:43:52 pm PST #8143 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yes. When they catch you.

No, you still have the opportunity to bet elsewhere before you're caught. Before you count cards, even. You've just decided that your rules are more important than theirs.

Whether or not this is true, you're in a scenario where they have all the power. What's even vaguely surprising about being turfed in that scenario?

I'm not claiming some moral high ground where I follow everyone else's rules. I just know when I'm breaking them.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 12:44:19 pm PST #8144 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I wouldn't endorse a maxim that anytime someone creates a self-interested rule it's always unethical to breach it.

Neither would I. Which is why I caveated upthread.


tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 12:45:23 pm PST #8145 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What's even vaguely surprising about being turfed in that scenario?

I don't think it's surprising.


brenda m - Nov 30, 2005 12:49:12 pm PST #8146 of 10006
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Gotta come down with ita on this. Card games are nothing but a set of arbitrary rules to begin with, aren't they? And are designed to create certain general odds. So I'm not sure why breaking one rule is more ethical than another.

Still, the main reason I wouldn't do it has more to do with consequences than ethics. But playing a game is playing a game - if you want to shift the odds in your favor, fine, but it's still breaking the rules.


msbelle - Nov 30, 2005 12:49:18 pm PST #8147 of 10006
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

So I just poked around on some casino web sites and could not find casino rules or house rules anywhere.