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Anya ,'Empty Places'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Aims - Nov 30, 2005 12:06:30 pm PST #8120 of 10006
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Is the actual act of counting cards unethical, or is it using your knowledge to further your funds?


tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 12:12:01 pm PST #8121 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is the actual act of counting cards unethical

I'd say no. You're acting within the rules of the game while observing what's going on in the game.


Pix - Nov 30, 2005 12:12:57 pm PST #8122 of 10006
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I have nothing to say about the Pope gay priest decree except ppppbbbbllllttt, which I don't think is very helpful.

LA seems a good place for restarts.
This. I know it isn't for everyone, but it's been a godsend for me.

ita, I'm so sorry about the continuing headaches. I hope the MRI explains what's going on.

I'm sitting with the sick-and-feverish crowd, but I at least am not contagious. Evidently I have a kidney infection, so I'm on craxy antibiotics. Unfortuntaely, craxy antibiotics are making me feel worse. By tomorrow night the infection symptoms should be subsiding, but I have to find a way to manage the Cipro side effects so I can make it through the next six days. In the meantime I have both infection AND side effects. Wheeee....


msbelle - Nov 30, 2005 12:13:53 pm PST #8123 of 10006
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I'd have no problem doing it. I'd win a couple of medium sized pots while losing some smaller ones and then move to the next casino and do the same thing all the way down the strip. It's legal and in my mind no different than using your skills to get a good paying job.


Jessica - Nov 30, 2005 12:14:30 pm PST #8124 of 10006
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

You're acting within the rules of the game while observing what's going on in the game.

Exactly. But since casinos like the house to win, any kind of advantage is considered grounds for expulsion.


tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 12:15:47 pm PST #8125 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Smart writers make guest appearances on The Simpsons: [link]

Tom Wolfe is screaming. He screams softly, this Southern gentleman, his trademark white suit unwrinkled, his spats unwavering even as a giant granite boulder hurtles down upon him. It looks to be the end of the pioneering New Journalism author of "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test."

"Aaaaaaaahh! Wait, no, that wasn't good, let me start over."

"How did you scream last time a boulder was hurtling toward you?" asks Carolyn Omine, executive producer of "The Simpsons."

"Why don't you try, 'Aaaaahhhh, my suit!' " suggests a rail-thin, nerdy-looking writer, from the front of the Fox recording studio.

"Ahhhhh, my suit! It's gabardine!" wails Wolfe, toward the microphone. "Well, but cops wear gabardine."

Slowly, Wolfe transforms. Even now, this episode's director, Mark Kirkland, is circling Wolfe, snapping pictures. Soon, a team of animators will render Wolfe bug-eyed and yellow-skinned. A year from now he'll appear on television alongside Homer, Marge, Bart, Lisa, Maggie and the bartender Moe in an episode of "The Simpsons" parodying highfalutin literary culture.

"We started with the idea of Moe as Charles Bukowski," explains Matt Warburton, who wrote the episode. "We brought Lisa in as the person who discovers in scuzzy, barfly Moe something that we've never seen before: a poet." Antics ensue, with Wolfe and fellow guest stars Gore Vidal, Michael Chabon and Jonathan Franzen voicing themselves. All were thrilled to participate.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2005 12:21:28 pm PST #8126 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Don't the casinos write the rules? So if they say card counting is against the rules, it is.


msbelle - Nov 30, 2005 12:22:44 pm PST #8127 of 10006
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

They have to catch you.


tommyrot - Nov 30, 2005 12:25:11 pm PST #8128 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Don't the casinos write the rules? So if they say card counting is against the rules, it is.

True. But I still think it's not unethical. You do what you can to win. If they don't like the way you play, they essentially tell you, "We don't want you as a customer." Capitalism marches on.

I don't think it's against the law to count cards - in my mind, it's not the same as stealing.


DavidS - Nov 30, 2005 12:27:53 pm PST #8129 of 10006
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

"We started with the idea of Moe as Charles Bukowski," explains Matt Warburton, who wrote the episode. "We brought Lisa in as the person who discovers in scuzzy, barfly Moe something that we've never seen before: a poet." Antics ensue, with Wolfe and fellow guest stars Gore Vidal, Michael Chabon and Jonathan Franzen voicing themselves. All were thrilled to participate.

Heh. Can't wait to see Chabon's flowing locks rendered in Simpsons-imation.

Speaking of writers, the publisher has acknowledged receipt of my book pitch. I'll hear sometime at the end of January. Ohmmmmmmmmm.

Also, I don't think it's unethical to count cards.