I said I'm sorry. I've made mistakes, but fear was never one of them.

Lilah ,'Conviction (1)'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2005 4:51:31 am PST #2103 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He likes to provoke people.

And it works. Thing is, when he provokes people, they get to react. My reaction is one of revulsion - whether his statements are true or not, I find it horrible behaviour, and not by my lights redeemable.

::does the little judgy dance::


Tom Scola - Nov 08, 2005 4:55:03 am PST #2104 of 10006
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

::does the little judgy dance::

That dance involves a lot of finger wagging, doesn't it?


Trudy Booth - Nov 08, 2005 4:56:54 am PST #2105 of 10006
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

There is something hard-wired in all of us about interacting with things that predict food or sex or escape, even when that interaction does nothing to increase the chances of food or sex or escape.

Ah, so it may not be "hitting" the button so much as "hitting on" the button.


tommyrot - Nov 08, 2005 4:59:14 am PST #2106 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

"You are just the sexiest button I've ever seen. How 'bout you and me go out to dinner?"


Jars - Nov 08, 2005 5:00:54 am PST #2107 of 10006

Thing is, when he provokes people, they get to react.

Well, yeah. He likes that, I'd imagine, egotist that he is.

Personally, I think it's kind of funny. He's putting forward a reprehensible persona. We get to laugh at it, rather than with it. It's a joke about a racist character, rather than a racist joke. But that's just me.


Calli - Nov 08, 2005 5:00:58 am PST #2108 of 10006
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Ah, so it may not be "hitting" the button so much as "hitting on" the button.

"You are just the sexiest button I've ever seen. How 'bout you and me go out to dinner?"

Well there's a reason you can't spell "button" without "butt".


tommyrot - Nov 08, 2005 5:03:01 am PST #2109 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

How long can Stimpy hold out without pushing the red button??? Can he fight the urge to push the lovely button? The lovely RED button! The big bright SHINY red button!!!!! The beautiful CANDY-COLORED button!!! Will he hold out?!?!??! CAN HE HOLD OUT??!?!?!?


Jessica - Nov 08, 2005 5:05:10 am PST #2110 of 10006
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's a joke about a racist character, rather than a racist joke.

Thing is, I'm not convinced of this. Since "provocative asshat" is pretty much the only persona he puts out in public, and I don't find him funny, why should I give him the benefit of the doubt?


Jars - Nov 08, 2005 5:07:21 am PST #2111 of 10006

Since "provocative asshat" is pretty much the only persona he puts out in public, and I don't find him funny, why should I give him the benefit of the doubt?

You shouldn't necessarily. I guess it depends on how much leeway you're willing to give someone for a sense of humour. I tend to find Vincent Gallo pretty funny, but I have a notoriously broad sense of humour.


Tom Scola - Nov 08, 2005 5:10:01 am PST #2112 of 10006
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

It's all in fun, right? I mean, he took the critics reaction to The Brown Bunny in stride, and had a good laugh about it, right?