We gotta go to the crappy town where I'm the hero!

Wash ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jars - Nov 08, 2005 5:00:54 am PST #2107 of 10006

Thing is, when he provokes people, they get to react.

Well, yeah. He likes that, I'd imagine, egotist that he is.

Personally, I think it's kind of funny. He's putting forward a reprehensible persona. We get to laugh at it, rather than with it. It's a joke about a racist character, rather than a racist joke. But that's just me.


Calli - Nov 08, 2005 5:00:58 am PST #2108 of 10006
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Ah, so it may not be "hitting" the button so much as "hitting on" the button.

"You are just the sexiest button I've ever seen. How 'bout you and me go out to dinner?"

Well there's a reason you can't spell "button" without "butt".


tommyrot - Nov 08, 2005 5:03:01 am PST #2109 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

How long can Stimpy hold out without pushing the red button??? Can he fight the urge to push the lovely button? The lovely RED button! The big bright SHINY red button!!!!! The beautiful CANDY-COLORED button!!! Will he hold out?!?!??! CAN HE HOLD OUT??!?!?!?


Jessica - Nov 08, 2005 5:05:10 am PST #2110 of 10006
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's a joke about a racist character, rather than a racist joke.

Thing is, I'm not convinced of this. Since "provocative asshat" is pretty much the only persona he puts out in public, and I don't find him funny, why should I give him the benefit of the doubt?


Jars - Nov 08, 2005 5:07:21 am PST #2111 of 10006

Since "provocative asshat" is pretty much the only persona he puts out in public, and I don't find him funny, why should I give him the benefit of the doubt?

You shouldn't necessarily. I guess it depends on how much leeway you're willing to give someone for a sense of humour. I tend to find Vincent Gallo pretty funny, but I have a notoriously broad sense of humour.


Tom Scola - Nov 08, 2005 5:10:01 am PST #2112 of 10006
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

It's all in fun, right? I mean, he took the critics reaction to The Brown Bunny in stride, and had a good laugh about it, right?


Fred Pete - Nov 08, 2005 5:11:45 am PST #2113 of 10006
Ann, that's a ferret.

Will he hold out?!?!??! CAN HE HOLD OUT??!?!?!?

If you're ready for me, boy
You'd better push the button and let me know....


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2005 5:12:39 am PST #2114 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He's either extremely detail-oriented and thorough in his cover, or Jars has a bigger sense of humour than he does.


Jars - Nov 08, 2005 5:13:47 am PST #2115 of 10006

He's definitely a dick, though. I just don't think he's that kind of dick.


bon bon - Nov 08, 2005 5:16:25 am PST #2116 of 10006
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It's got a nice Boy's Own adventure serial feel to it. Cliffhanger every week that reminds me of old Alias. Big plotting that doesn't go quite smoothly, fantastical wheels within wheels.

And Wentworth Miller has plot-dictated shirtlessness.

This is all very nice but my favorite part of the show right now is watching Peter Stormare and Robert Knepper alternately chew scenery.