These girls have the most beautiful dresses. And so do I -- how about that?

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2005 7:23:38 am PST #1037 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are squash fruit? If not, why not? Seeds on the inside, what?


Betsy HP - Nov 03, 2005 7:24:40 am PST #1038 of 10006
If I only had a brain...

But in that case, roses are fruit.

This. Must. Stop.


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2005 7:25:18 am PST #1039 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No! Roses are red! The potential for confusion is endless...


Betsy HP - Nov 03, 2005 7:25:48 am PST #1040 of 10006
If I only had a brain...

Rose hips are also red, and have seeds on the inside.


sarameg - Nov 03, 2005 7:26:36 am PST #1041 of 10006

I have no idea. I classify them as weird.


Jessica - Nov 03, 2005 7:28:00 am PST #1042 of 10006
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Aren't rose hips fruit?

Squash are definitely fruit. I think they may be technically berries, unless I'm talking out of my ass here.


bon bon - Nov 03, 2005 7:29:25 am PST #1043 of 10006
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It's basically a grocer's term. It's not a technical term.

ETA: fruit is, that is.


Betsy HP - Nov 03, 2005 7:30:42 am PST #1044 of 10006
If I only had a brain...

Raspberries are technically drupes.


Betsy HP - Nov 03, 2005 7:31:56 am PST #1045 of 10006
If I only had a brain...

Me so wrong:

Fruit: Can be defined as simply as the seed-bearing part of the plant. It is more commonly used as a term to describe a mature ovary containing the seeds of the plant. Botanically, "fruit" is a much broader term than what it tends to define in common language. The pod of a pea (the legume) is a fruit, as is the samara (a winged seed-bearing structure) of an ash tree. Most of what we call fruits are really berries, drupes or pomes. Fruits may be "simple", where they develop from one carpel or several fused carpels (examples would be blueberry or grape); "aggregate", where each carpel from a single flower develops into a separate part of the overall fruit (examples would be raspberry or strawberry); and "multiple", where all the carpels of more than one flower on a plant produce a single fruit (an example would be pineapple).

Berry: A fleshy fruit comprised of one to several carpels, each of which usually has many seeds. The inner layer of the fruit coat, surrounding the seeds, is fleshy. (Examples would be tomato, blueberry or grape.)

Drupe: A fleshy fruit comprised of one to several carpels, each of which usually has a single, large seed. The inner coat of the fruit is woody or stony and fixed tightly to the seed. (Examples would be plum or cherry; fruits with a "pit".)

Pome: A fleshy fruit where the fleshy part is derived from the perianth, the structure that normally surrounds the base of a flower. This is a specialized type of fruit that only some members of the rose family produce. (Examples would be apple and hawthorn.)


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2005 7:39:41 am PST #1046 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kewl. I told somebody a pumpkin was a fruit the other day, and although he'll never check, I like to think there's some technical sense in which I'm correct. Seed bearing part of the plant. Mature, seed-containing ovary. Check.