You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Natter 40: The Nice One  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - Nov 03, 2005 7:30:42 am PST #1044 of 10006
If I only had a brain...

Raspberries are technically drupes.


Betsy HP - Nov 03, 2005 7:31:56 am PST #1045 of 10006
If I only had a brain...

Me so wrong:

Fruit: Can be defined as simply as the seed-bearing part of the plant. It is more commonly used as a term to describe a mature ovary containing the seeds of the plant. Botanically, "fruit" is a much broader term than what it tends to define in common language. The pod of a pea (the legume) is a fruit, as is the samara (a winged seed-bearing structure) of an ash tree. Most of what we call fruits are really berries, drupes or pomes. Fruits may be "simple", where they develop from one carpel or several fused carpels (examples would be blueberry or grape); "aggregate", where each carpel from a single flower develops into a separate part of the overall fruit (examples would be raspberry or strawberry); and "multiple", where all the carpels of more than one flower on a plant produce a single fruit (an example would be pineapple).

Berry: A fleshy fruit comprised of one to several carpels, each of which usually has many seeds. The inner layer of the fruit coat, surrounding the seeds, is fleshy. (Examples would be tomato, blueberry or grape.)

Drupe: A fleshy fruit comprised of one to several carpels, each of which usually has a single, large seed. The inner coat of the fruit is woody or stony and fixed tightly to the seed. (Examples would be plum or cherry; fruits with a "pit".)

Pome: A fleshy fruit where the fleshy part is derived from the perianth, the structure that normally surrounds the base of a flower. This is a specialized type of fruit that only some members of the rose family produce. (Examples would be apple and hawthorn.)


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2005 7:39:41 am PST #1046 of 10006
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kewl. I told somebody a pumpkin was a fruit the other day, and although he'll never check, I like to think there's some technical sense in which I'm correct. Seed bearing part of the plant. Mature, seed-containing ovary. Check.


Jessica - Nov 03, 2005 7:41:17 am PST #1047 of 10006
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

mature ovary containing the seeds of the plant

This is my working definition.

Legally (for import/tariff purposes), it's fuzzier.


Emily - Nov 03, 2005 7:47:02 am PST #1048 of 10006
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Don't suppose there's a Hil around?


Steph L. - Nov 03, 2005 7:47:55 am PST #1049 of 10006
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Hil is alive with the sound of music.


Jesse - Nov 03, 2005 7:50:51 am PST #1050 of 10006
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Would it be at all common for a company to have multiple 401k plans?

Definitely there are different benefits of all kinds if some people are part of a union and others aren't. Not sure why else they would do it, but it's not beyond the realm of my imagination.

Betsy, good luck with the vision thing, and what they said about getting into the doctor early. I'll also mention that when I had eye issues, the opthalmologist and the optomotrist disagreed about what the issue actually was.


Betsy HP - Nov 03, 2005 7:51:35 am PST #1051 of 10006
If I only had a brain...

Mmmk. My optometrist wants to see me first thing tomorrow, and I'm going to push him on whether an opthalmogist is wise.


Emily - Nov 03, 2005 7:52:22 am PST #1052 of 10006
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

How do you solve a problem like Bombelli?
How do you catch a cubic and pin it down?
How do you prove combination by induction?
An ibn al-Banna! A depressed cubic! A clown!


tommyrot - Nov 03, 2005 7:54:45 am PST #1053 of 10006
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

My ophthalmologist found the blood clot that my optometrist and doctor missed. I think the difference was the ophthalmologist dilated my eye and used a special hand-held magnifying thingie.