Did you try that boobie bottle, Plei?

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So you've got some nothing. You raise it to the power of nothing (or multiply it by nothing), effectively giving nothing even more nothing. Suddenly you've got something? Where did it come from!? Dear God, WHERE?

This is why I'm not a creationist, isn't it?

That sounds way more like the naturalist** argument to me. In the beginning there was no life at all, and all these lifeless things combined, at and under what just "happened" to be all the right conditions, and the precise moment, and then there was all kinds of life, that kept improving itself. And all of the conditions that never before had allowed for life, maintained to keep allowing for life.

Confusing!Boy (remember him?)

Hate him

about my unholy love of the OED,

Love that (and you)

and somehow that became a conversation about binary numbers, and I even tried to make a joke about binary numbers....and he didn't hang up on me! Keen!

How sad that a conversation about something as cromulent as the OED ended up mathy.

** edited to change "evolutionist" to "naturalist" because I have no problem accepting Evolution, proper.

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Will she take the bottle in other circumstances?

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How sad that a conversation about something as cromulent as the OED ended up mathy.

Dude. Math is so cromulent.

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So, umm, any tricks to get a kid to take a bottle at daycare? I mean, just because it's not fresh squeezed, doesn't mean you reject the stuff out of hand. Sheesh.

Are they warming it for her?

Is she taking nothing at all? Could you disappear for one of her evening feedings at home for a few nights, to see if Paul can coax her into taking a bottle when she's really hungry, just to get her the hang of it? Also, have you given her any solids, yet? I know you were delaying it, because it's not necessary, but if she got tempted by a bowl of cereal or a fruit, which isn't delivered via boob and nipple, she might then be more accepting of a fake nipple delivering breast milk to wash it all down.

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Dude. Math is so cromulent.

It's the Playtex Nurser in comparison to the fresh, warm breast full of mother's milk, which is the OED.

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Did you try that boobie bottle, Plei?

Didn't have a chance to order one--I was hoping to find a local store that stocks them, but no such luck.

Will she take the bottle in other circumstances?

Nope. Not since about 3 months, when she decided that bottles were eeeeeevil. I think we were hoping that, when faced with a nine hour stretch away from the boob, she'd take one, but again, no such luck.

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Also, have you given her any solids, yet? I know you were delaying it, because it's not necessary, but if she got tempted by a bowl of cereal or a fruit, which isn't delivered via boob and nipple, she might then be more accepting of a fake nipple delivering breast milk to wash it all down.

She's been on solids for two months. They tried cereal towards the end of the day, but she wouldn't take that at that point, either. She's not really interested in solids enough to make a meal of them yet.

I don't know if they're warming them.

Is she taking nothing at all? Could you disappear for one of her evening feedings at home for a few nights, to see if Paul can coax her into taking a bottle when she's really hungry, just to get her the hang of it?

Nothing. She refused all bottles. She also refused milk-on-a-spoon. Last night, I was able to get her to use the Nuby cup, but only after she'd eaten in the preferred method. She took bottles occasionally for about a month before deciding she'd have none of that, so it's not that she can't, it's that she won't.

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It's the Playtex Nurser in comparison to the fresh, warm breast full of mother's milk, which is the OED.

This is totally not a claim I can even approach arguing. No fair playing the baby card!

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She's been on solids for two months. They tried cereal towards the end of the day, but she wouldn't take that at that point, either. She's not really interested in solids enough to make a meal of them yet.

Maybe daycare could offer her solids first, when she's first due to be hungry, before she's all stressed out from the hunger. I don't mean to suggest she's going to get her nutrition that way, but I do understand this is about Lily's will (which will serve her well in the future, although I'm sorry it's causing you concern now).

I'm thinking that maybe, if they do everything differently than you do at home, she might be more accepting of it. Right now, she may well feel like saying, "Do I look stupid? Do I look that easy to fool? I know you're not my mother and I *know* that's not a breast. Screw you, and stop acting like you're gonna trick me, because I am not buying it at all, asshats." A spoonful of something she particularly likes, first, before she's starving, might disarm her will power, just enough, to get the ball rolling. I just offer this in the spirit of trial and error. It must be so frustrating for you and for Lily. I hope she adjusts, soon.

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