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Did you try that boobie bottle, Plei?
Didn't have a chance to order one--I was hoping to find a local store that stocks them, but no such luck.
Will she take the bottle in other circumstances?
Nope. Not since about 3 months, when she decided that bottles were eeeeeevil. I think we were hoping that, when faced with a nine hour stretch away from the boob, she'd take one, but again, no such luck.
Also, have you given her any solids, yet? I know you were delaying it, because it's not necessary, but if she got tempted by a bowl of cereal or a fruit, which isn't delivered via boob and nipple, she might then be more accepting of a fake nipple delivering breast milk to wash it all down.
She's been on solids for two months. They tried cereal towards the end of the day, but she wouldn't take that at that point, either. She's not really interested in solids enough to make a meal of them yet.
I don't know if they're warming them.
Is she taking nothing at all? Could you disappear for one of her evening feedings at home for a few nights, to see if Paul can coax her into taking a bottle when she's really hungry, just to get her the hang of it?
Nothing. She refused all bottles. She also refused milk-on-a-spoon. Last night, I was able to get her to use the Nuby cup, but only after she'd eaten in the preferred method. She took bottles occasionally for about a month before deciding she'd have none of that, so it's not that she can't, it's that she won't.
It's the Playtex Nurser in comparison to the fresh, warm breast full of mother's milk, which is the OED.
This is totally not a claim I can even approach arguing. No fair playing the baby card!
She's been on solids for two months. They tried cereal towards the end of the day, but she wouldn't take that at that point, either. She's not really interested in solids enough to make a meal of them yet.Maybe daycare could offer her solids first, when she's first due to be hungry, before she's all stressed out from the hunger. I don't mean to suggest she's going to get her nutrition that way, but I do understand this is about Lily's will (which will serve her well in the future, although I'm sorry it's causing you concern now).
I'm thinking that maybe, if they do everything differently than you do at home, she might be more accepting of it. Right now, she may well feel like saying, "Do I look stupid? Do I look that easy to fool? I know you're not my mother and I *know* that's not a breast. Screw you, and stop acting like you're gonna trick me, because I am not buying it at all, asshats." A spoonful of something she particularly likes, first, before she's starving, might disarm her will power, just enough, to get the ball rolling. I just offer this in the spirit of trial and error. It must be so frustrating for you and for Lily. I hope she adjusts, soon.
Mmmmm....fresh warm boobie full of OED....
Binary may be easier to figure out.Than confusing guy.
I've given up trying to figure him out. It's so much easier that way.
and somehow that became a conversation about binary numbers, and I even tried to make a joke about binary numbers....and he didn't hang up on me! Keen!
How sad that a conversation about something as cromulent as the OED ended up mathy.
Yeah, but -- he didn't hang up on me for getting my geek on. That's noteworthy.
Oh, Plei, how worrisome. I never had to deal with this personally, but here are suggestions I've gleaned from watching others: vary warmth (some like it cold, some warm), try when she's not already hungry and mad, try as many nipples as you can get your hands on. Taste the expressed milk youself to make sure it tastes right - not off. I know a woman with a strange enzyme (she's a biologist so she did research) that means her milk tastes bad if it isn't frozen instantly, and I know mine frozen was not nearly as good as fresh, so I guess it varies.
I wonder if she could handle a sippy cup by now? Worth a try. If not, they make silicone cup feeders that some people have used with success, or a little syringe, or the tubes that tape to a finger. I agree with Cindy, though, that it's mostly about will at this point. Six months is a classic age for nursing strikes even - which I imagine is even for traumatic for the mama. She's unlikely to do herself serious harm by refusing food for a while, but I am sure you'd like to solve this ASAP. Fingers crossed you can outwit her.
Hey All.
Can I just say how awesome it is to come in here and spend the morning playing catch up reading about binary, and math geekery, and creation v naturalism as it applies to mathiness?
Pretty darned awesome.
::hugs Buffistas close::
Poor Lilybean. But who can blame her for preferring Ple's Bosom of Doom?
If you work for a really, really nice and understanding employer, is "I feel like crying for no good reason" a valid excuse for going home and going to bed?
I think so Betsy, though you might want to rephrase it. Something like, "I'm unable to work at my best today as I have a psychical crisis occurring. I will return when I've overthrown the dark overlords of doom who are destroying the planet Glaxon and screwing with my emotions (wherein my magical strength resides) as a result."