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if you're not going to acknowledge our holiday, you must not want us as customers, so we're not going to patronize your business.
But they do acknowledge it. I was in Target two days ago and there were angels and nativity displays and Christmas stars to buy. Zabar's in New York doesn't put up signs saying "Happy Passover" but they want Jews celebrating that holiday to shop there, and they do that by stocking the goods they need for the Seder.
But they do acknowledge it. I was in Target two days ago and there were angels and nativity displays and Christmas stars to buy.
I'm guessing the fundie faction that wants to reclaim Christmas in the name of God is comprised of people who believe, roughly, that unless Christmas and ONLY Christmas is acknowledged as The Winter Holiday We All Celebrate, then it isn't good enough. All others must be shoved aside so that Christmas can reign supreme.
I don't know that that's what they think, but it IS the vibe I get from them.
But they do acknowledge it. I was in Target two days ago and there were angels and nativity displays and Christmas stars to buy.I don't see how this ties in, since supposedly the protesters' whole point is that the word Christmas is not used in their commercials and in-store promotionals. I don't think they ever claimed they weren't selling Christmas goods. In fact, it's the opposite, isn't it? Isn't the idea inherent in their protest that Target is really selling Christmas stuff, and trying to make money off the Christmas holiday, but is genericizing it in their ads?
Isn't the idea inherent in their protest that Target is really selling Christmas stuff, and trying to make money off the Christmas holiday, but is genericizing it in their ads?
Target is also really selling Hannukah and New Year's stuff. I don't see why running one generic ad instead of three specific ones says anything other than "one ad campaign is cheaper than three."
Also target does have signs saying Merry Christmas up. They just are not big enough to satisfy the relious right. And you know mixed with some Happy Holiday signs which obviously are an attack on Christians. Neither "Happy Holdays" nor the accusation of an attack on Christain holidays just as Christmas and Easter are new. One prominent crusade on this issue was conducted by Henry Ford, around Easter Cards featuring the Easter Bunny rather than return of the dead guy on a stick. It was part of his more general attack on the great Jewish Conspicacy against Ameriican Culture that ultimately lead him to be awarded a medal by Hitler. Note the O'Reilly in his attack claims there is a conspiracy by secular humanists against Christianity funded by the rich secular humanist Soros who happens to be Jewish.
You think I'm being paranoid about this whole "War to save Christmas" being anti-semitic:
Follow this Daily Kos link:
(I should disclaim that I haven't actually been paying attention to Target's holiday marketing, so I have no idea to what extent it's been de-Christmasized. I'm pretty much taking AFA's word that their claims are accurate.)
Also target does have signs saying Merry Christmas up. They just are not big enough to satisfy the relious right. And you know mixed with some Happy Holiday signs which obviously are an attack on Christians.
Right. Like I said, it's not enough for Christmas to be acknowledged *along with* other holidays -- Christmas must be the only holiday acknowledged, or else it's being oppressed and watered-down and made more generic.
Which is (1) completely dumb, and (2) makes me want to smack someone.
Gar, I for one don't think you're paranoid. Although I wouldn't limit the "anti-" to "semitic."
I'm guessing the fundie faction that wants to reclaim Christmas in the name of God is comprised of people who believe, roughly, that unless Christmas and ONLY Christmas is acknowledged as The Winter Holiday We All Celebrate, then it isn't good enough. All others must be shoved aside so that Christmas can reign supreme.
I don't know that that's what they think, but it IS the vibe I get from them.
Based on Wildmon's track record, I'd say you have his motives exactly right.
You think I'm being paranoid about this whole "War to save Christmas" being anti-semitic:
I don't, but antisemitic quotes from Bill O'Reilly, Pat Robertson, David Duke, and Jerry Falwell aren't exactly news.
The idea that "Happy Holidays" is an anti-Christian statement is absurd.
I know. My dad got on my case one year because I said “Happy Holidays” in my answering machine message. I was like “GET. OVER. IT. HH allows me to leave it on until March if I feel like it. Plus, “O Come All Ye Faithful” was playing in the background of the damn message!!”
This year she has bypassed her habit of either asking for a gift card or directing us to a specific item in a catalogue to "I'm getting Youngest daughter this particular present, and either you or mom will pay for it."
Is she HIGH?
Target is also really selling Hannukah and New Year's stuff. I don't see why running one generic ad instead of three specific ones says anything other than "one ad campaign is cheaper than three."
Exactly. See my point above about Happy Holidays