Fred: It's the pictures in my mind that are getting me. It's like being stuck in a really bad movie with those Clockwork Orange clampy things on my eyeballs. Wesley: Why imagine? Reality's disturbing enough.

'Shells'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


JZ - Dec 06, 2005 4:59:46 am PST #7991 of 10003
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

About the pharmacists, what amych said, every word.

{{{DJ}}} (special brackety hugs with a bit of extra space so as not to jostle your poor nose)

I'm so sorry, bt. It's always an extra-shitty thing to deal with, that last jab of pain in a wound you thought had mostly healed. I'm vibing hard for huge good things for you in 2006. The universe totally owes you.


Trudy Booth - Dec 06, 2005 5:07:24 am PST #7992 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm sure there are doctors who won't perform abortions yet see that their patients are responsibly referred.


§ ita § - Dec 06, 2005 5:08:59 am PST #7993 of 10003
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are abortions things that your general doctor performs, or is it a more specialist sort of a procedure?


Trudy Booth - Dec 06, 2005 5:16:20 am PST #7994 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Are abortions things that your general doctor performs, or is it a more specialist sort of a procedure?

My doctor's practice performs them outpatient at the hospital or refers you to a private clinic. It's entirely possible, however, that someone in his practice DOESN'T do them -- I never asked.


Steph L. - Dec 06, 2005 5:19:04 am PST #7995 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Are abortions things that your general doctor performs, or is it a more specialist sort of a procedure?

See, that's an excellent point. A patient goes to a pharmacy with the tacit understanding that, as long as they are willing to pay, they can obtain a legitimately prescribed legal medication. There aren't separate pharmacies for different types of drugs.

It's not the pharmacist's decision as to who should be allowed to receive a given drug -- and it's not just EC anymore; there are reports of pharmacists who won't dispense mental-health-related medication, for instance. The pharmacist isn't the prescriber; the doctor is. They don't make that decision together.

Honestly. A vegan can't get a job at Outback Steakhouse and then refuse to cook anything with animal products in it. Pharmacists are no different.


tommyrot - Dec 06, 2005 5:20:13 am PST #7996 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

A vegan can't get a job at Outback Steakhouse and then refuse to cook anything with animal products in it.

Heh. It would be funny if that happened, though.


DebetEsse - Dec 06, 2005 5:21:34 am PST #7997 of 10003
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Heh. It would be funny if that happened, though.

"Salad. Salad. Salad. Fries..Hey, Mike, what kind of oil do we use? Really? Sorry, Salad for you."


Amy - Dec 06, 2005 5:22:22 am PST #7998 of 10003
Because books.

I'm pretty sure the first OB/GYN practice I found where we used to live didn't perform abortions *and* didn't refer, because the hospital they were affiliated with was Catholic. Privately, I don't know what each doctor did if asked for advice or a referral, but I do know the senior physician there was very gung-ho about me trying the "family planning" (or rhythm) method of birth control.

The whole thing kind of astounded me, because I'd never run into a practice like that -- but I'd also never had any experience with a Catholic hospital.


Steph L. - Dec 06, 2005 5:24:05 am PST #7999 of 10003
I look more rad than Lutheranism

This conversation is eerily synchronous for me, b/c I'm editing an article about mifepristone (one of the two drugs in the RU-486 regimen), and the nasty side effects it can have on the woman, particularly if it doesn't actually end the pregnancy. Nasty stuff.


Trudy Booth - Dec 06, 2005 5:26:45 am PST #8000 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

In light of our current discussion I ask your indulgence...

sluuuuuuuuuut

[Please note: I am not a judgmental doctor, pharmacist, nurse practitioner or any other sort of healthcare provider.]