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Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


tommyrot - Nov 18, 2005 6:25:03 pm PST #5682 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I mean...I was being sorta literal. No lethal injection, no gas chamber, no electrocution. A tiled room with a drain in the floor and a .45 bullet in the back of the head. Just like the KGB used to do.

The vast majority of the cost of executing someone is the court costs, what with the death sentence carying a higher standard of court proceedings, the inevitable appeals (because the death sentence is not reversable) and what-not.


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 6:26:50 pm PST #5683 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Not when the KGB did it.


Miracleman - Nov 18, 2005 6:29:00 pm PST #5684 of 10003
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

The vast majority of the cost of executing someone is the court costs, what with the death sentence carying a higher standard of court proceedings, the inevitable appeals (because the death sentence is not reversable) and what-not.

Not when the KGB did it.

This.

In my system there would be *one* appeal and it would have to happen within one year of sentencing. If the appeal didn't work, or you missed the deadline...


tommyrot - Nov 18, 2005 6:29:08 pm PST #5685 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Not when the KGB did it.

True.

I think we should develope some advanced form of computer artificial intelligence to decide who lives and who dies. That can suffice until the aliens arrive to take over.


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 6:31:04 pm PST #5686 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

When I was a kid I thought they should use Wonder Woman's lasso. They you'd know if the bad guys were telling the truth.


Allyson - Nov 18, 2005 6:34:40 pm PST #5687 of 10003
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

My brother is a CO in an asylum. His job is to watch monsters all day. One monster spent his childhood in a prison in south america. He was imprisoned with adult men. And so, he's a man made monster. And while I have compassion for the monster, I know that the monster can never be let out. The compassion for him says that he shouldn't be killed, despite things that would have had him put down in Texas by now. And so, the most compassion this young man has ever received has been by prison guards in a US asylum.

The boy who carjacked and kidnapped me was 17, poor, fatheress. I went to court all the time to make sure he went to jail. He got 5 years, and I found that fair. In the time he was out on bail, he ran away and got a girl pregnant. And I felt compassion, but wanted justice for what happened to me.

I found the court to be fair, and helpful to me. They made sure I was reimbursed for medical and missed work, they offered me counseling and protected me. The police were kind and helpful, as was ever judge, attorney, and victim's advocate.

What happened to the boy was fair, and his sentence was decided based on the many factors of the case.

I think what I'm trying to say is that I think a lot of problems with the justice system are one-size-fits-all sentences that don't take all the factors into account.

And mostly, I think the worst thing you can do to punish someone is to put them in a dark, damp place, and tell them they will never order a pizza, drive a car, ride a bike, see the ocean, drink a beer, go to a movie theatre, shower alone, pet a dog, or go to a baseball game ever a fucking gain. Removed from society. Banished. I'd rather be dead.

When the boy who hurt me was sentenced, I was allowed to read a victim's impact statement, and that's pretty much how it read. That for the next five years, I would order pizzas, go to the movies, meet friends for late night club gigs at midnight in Kenmore Square, have a beer and sing American Pie with the other drunks at closing time at the local pub...and not think of him at all.

He was in jail when I was at the Angel wrap party ogling Boreanaz. So there, FUCKO. Justice should be custom made to fit each individual. My justice was fucking Armani.


Kat - Nov 18, 2005 6:39:20 pm PST #5688 of 10003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I think what I'm trying to say is that I think a lot of problems with the justice system are one-size-fits-all sentences that don't take all the factors into account.

I think this is true. Also, as I said to you in AIM, I'm troubled by the tendency to try juveniles as adults coupled with mandatory sentences.


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 6:44:47 pm PST #5689 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Also, as I said to you in AIM, I'm troubled by the tendency to try juveniles as adults coupled with mandatory sentences.

This notion that juveniles didn't commit violent crimes until a week ago drives me bats. The reason we HAVE a juvenile justice system is that they've always committed crimes and a long time ago we decided that a fact of civilization is that we hold children less responsible than adults.


Astarte - Nov 18, 2005 6:53:26 pm PST #5690 of 10003
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

In my system there would be *one* appeal and it would have to happen within one year of sentencing. If the appeal didn't work, or you missed the deadline...

McMartin Preschool.

IJS.


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 6:58:38 pm PST #5691 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

McMartin Preschool.

IJS.

He's not claiming this is virtuous or fair, just what he wants.