Right, what's a little sweater sniffing between sworn enemies?

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Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Miracleman - Nov 18, 2005 6:08:33 pm PST #5676 of 10003
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

This is where I know I'm in the minority.

I have a very simple viewpoint; Murder, rape and anything that endangers or harms children (and this was a "thing" with me even before the Punk came along) and I believe you are no longer fit to be with human society and a bullet is cheaper than feeding you.

I understand that it is a stance that many can jump at and point out the holes and flaws and hypocrisy. This is not a stance that comes from an entirely rational place, however, so all I can do is shrug and say "Yeah, I know...what you say makes sense. And yet...we put down rabid dogs. To me, it's the same thing."

Your Morality May Vary (and, of course, still Be Valid)


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 6:12:11 pm PST #5677 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I have a very simple viewpoint; Murder, rape and anything that endangers or harms children (and this was a "thing" with me even before the Punk came along) and I believe you are no longer fit to be with human society and a bullet is cheaper than feeding you.

I can see the viewpoint that some things should rule you out of the gene pool (though I don't agree with it). But then I have the unfairly administered and falibility problems.


Miracleman - Nov 18, 2005 6:16:49 pm PST #5678 of 10003
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

But then I have the unfairly administered and falibility problems.

Well, naturally, *I* would be doing the judging and *I* am infallible.

No, seriously, I do see the flaws. And I recognize that it's a grotesquely simplistic viewpoint. But there's a...a solid rock wall in my soul that I can't get past for this. This is, among many other reasons, why I am not a lawyer and am not a judge. Because...I'm oddly biased for somebody who really hasn't been a victim of, or close to a victim of, murder, rape or child molestation/endangerment/abuse.

It's...hardwired. I don't know why. But there it is.


tommyrot - Nov 18, 2005 6:17:26 pm PST #5679 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I believe you are no longer fit to be with human society and a bullet is cheaper than feeding you.

It still costs much more to execute someone than to imprison the same person for life.


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 6:19:39 pm PST #5680 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm oddly biased for somebody who really hasn't been a victim of, or close to a victim of, murder, rape or child molestation/endangerment/abuse.

I don't think so. Plenty of people on the other end of that continuum are against capital punishment.

And your infalibility has never been doubted by this hippie.


Miracleman - Nov 18, 2005 6:21:34 pm PST #5681 of 10003
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

It still costs much more to execute someone than to imprison the same person for life.

Not under my system.

I mean...I was being sorta literal. No lethal injection, no gas chamber, no electrocution. A tiled room with a drain in the floor and a .45 bullet in the back of the head. Just like the KGB used to do.

I'm a monster. And I want to make it very clear that I am in no way attempting to justify this position as superior to others or even morally or ethically justifiable.

It's the way I feel about it, is all.


tommyrot - Nov 18, 2005 6:25:03 pm PST #5682 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I mean...I was being sorta literal. No lethal injection, no gas chamber, no electrocution. A tiled room with a drain in the floor and a .45 bullet in the back of the head. Just like the KGB used to do.

The vast majority of the cost of executing someone is the court costs, what with the death sentence carying a higher standard of court proceedings, the inevitable appeals (because the death sentence is not reversable) and what-not.


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 6:26:50 pm PST #5683 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Not when the KGB did it.


Miracleman - Nov 18, 2005 6:29:00 pm PST #5684 of 10003
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

The vast majority of the cost of executing someone is the court costs, what with the death sentence carying a higher standard of court proceedings, the inevitable appeals (because the death sentence is not reversable) and what-not.

Not when the KGB did it.

This.

In my system there would be *one* appeal and it would have to happen within one year of sentencing. If the appeal didn't work, or you missed the deadline...


tommyrot - Nov 18, 2005 6:29:08 pm PST #5685 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Not when the KGB did it.

True.

I think we should develope some advanced form of computer artificial intelligence to decide who lives and who dies. That can suffice until the aliens arrive to take over.