Honestly, you meet the most appalling sort of people....

Giles ,'Chosen'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Aims - Nov 18, 2005 2:53:04 pm PST #5627 of 10003
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Ok.


beth b - Nov 18, 2005 2:58:35 pm PST #5628 of 10003
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I can understand Aimee's position. I just don't trust the justic system to be that good. and only get the bad guys.


Aims - Nov 18, 2005 3:00:25 pm PST #5629 of 10003
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I don't trust it all that much, either. There are too many places that have a hard on for just executing in a feeble attempt at getting other would-be criminals to Stop Being Bad People. Well, that doesn't work, we know it.


erikaj - Nov 18, 2005 3:02:56 pm PST #5630 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

The death penalty is unfair and disproportionate as currently practiced. I can't support that, but yet I think there are offenses heinous enough that maybe people should die.


Pix - Nov 18, 2005 3:03:11 pm PST #5631 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

I don't support the death penalty, but I have a feeling that I might feel the same way as Aimee if I had a baby. Hell, I nearly feel that way just being an adopted Auntie.


vw bug - Nov 18, 2005 3:05:57 pm PST #5632 of 10003
Mostly lurking...

Have a headache. Have taken drugs. Going to bed now. Lost pronouns.


Pix - Nov 18, 2005 3:09:01 pm PST #5633 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

And now for something completely different.

I am watching the recent Family Guy...the one where the guys become the A-Team. OMG. Dying over here.


DavidS - Nov 18, 2005 3:09:20 pm PST #5634 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The death penalty is unfair and disproportionate as currently practiced. I can't support that, but yet I think there are offenses heinous enough that maybe people should die.

I'm with erika. I think some crimes mean you forfeit your life. I don't have a problem with a government exercising life-or-death decisions since the gov't does that every day in multiple ways. I think the polis has the right to make that decision.

However, there is a lot evidence which makes it clear that the system as it currently exists is very racist and classist. Consequently, I'm okay with the death penalty in principle but not as it is practiced in our country.


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 3:11:02 pm PST #5635 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm also completely against the death penalty for a number of reasons but on a gut level want certain fuckers dead.

That gut thing is part of why I'm against it, however, since I think the courts should be about justice and not vengance (even when the fucker deserves it).


Cashmere - Nov 18, 2005 3:13:51 pm PST #5636 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

The death penalty is unfair and disproportionate as currently practiced. I can't support that, but yet I think there are offenses heinous enough that maybe people should die.

DH and I just had this conversation last night. There's currently a case in Ohio where a guy is going to be executed for a murder there is a good chance he didn't commit. It doesn't make the guy any less of a scumbag--he did acknowledge killing someone else, but he was never charged with that crime. This one has very specific and real doubts.

I'm sort of torn because I recognize the human drive for revenge and the desire to essentially take a life for a life. BUT intellectually, the system is imperfect and isn't applied fairly, resulting in the possibility of executing an innocent person.

Personally, I don't support the death penalty. But I get really shaky in my convictions when it's a heinous crime like the rape and murder of a child.

It's more about the ugly side of human nature and I don't like to contemplate that too often.