Jayne: Here's a little concept I been workin' on. Why don't we shoot her first? Wash: It is her turn.

'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


erikaj - Nov 18, 2005 3:02:56 pm PST #5630 of 10003
Always Anti-fascist!

The death penalty is unfair and disproportionate as currently practiced. I can't support that, but yet I think there are offenses heinous enough that maybe people should die.


Pix - Nov 18, 2005 3:03:11 pm PST #5631 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

I don't support the death penalty, but I have a feeling that I might feel the same way as Aimee if I had a baby. Hell, I nearly feel that way just being an adopted Auntie.


vw bug - Nov 18, 2005 3:05:57 pm PST #5632 of 10003
Mostly lurking...

Have a headache. Have taken drugs. Going to bed now. Lost pronouns.


Pix - Nov 18, 2005 3:09:01 pm PST #5633 of 10003
The status is NOT quo.

And now for something completely different.

I am watching the recent Family Guy...the one where the guys become the A-Team. OMG. Dying over here.


DavidS - Nov 18, 2005 3:09:20 pm PST #5634 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The death penalty is unfair and disproportionate as currently practiced. I can't support that, but yet I think there are offenses heinous enough that maybe people should die.

I'm with erika. I think some crimes mean you forfeit your life. I don't have a problem with a government exercising life-or-death decisions since the gov't does that every day in multiple ways. I think the polis has the right to make that decision.

However, there is a lot evidence which makes it clear that the system as it currently exists is very racist and classist. Consequently, I'm okay with the death penalty in principle but not as it is practiced in our country.


Trudy Booth - Nov 18, 2005 3:11:02 pm PST #5635 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm also completely against the death penalty for a number of reasons but on a gut level want certain fuckers dead.

That gut thing is part of why I'm against it, however, since I think the courts should be about justice and not vengance (even when the fucker deserves it).


Cashmere - Nov 18, 2005 3:13:51 pm PST #5636 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

The death penalty is unfair and disproportionate as currently practiced. I can't support that, but yet I think there are offenses heinous enough that maybe people should die.

DH and I just had this conversation last night. There's currently a case in Ohio where a guy is going to be executed for a murder there is a good chance he didn't commit. It doesn't make the guy any less of a scumbag--he did acknowledge killing someone else, but he was never charged with that crime. This one has very specific and real doubts.

I'm sort of torn because I recognize the human drive for revenge and the desire to essentially take a life for a life. BUT intellectually, the system is imperfect and isn't applied fairly, resulting in the possibility of executing an innocent person.

Personally, I don't support the death penalty. But I get really shaky in my convictions when it's a heinous crime like the rape and murder of a child.

It's more about the ugly side of human nature and I don't like to contemplate that too often.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 18, 2005 3:15:56 pm PST #5637 of 10003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Consequently, I'm okay with the death penalty in principle but not as it is practiced in our country.

This is me. Except that the only way I would trust the death penalty would becomplety fair is if I felt the people administering it were completely fair. Which in fact means that really I would only trust me and a panel of people I trusted, personally. And I am not willing to take that responsibility, so I am in actaulity, anti-death penalty.

This makes me think of my poor cow-orkers wife who got booed off the stage at an anti-war event in my city because she represented a Catholic women's anti-abortion, anti-death penalty, anti-war group, which seems to me a perfectly logical position, if one I don't agree with.


Anne W. - Nov 18, 2005 3:18:41 pm PST #5638 of 10003
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

This makes me think of my poor cow-orkers wife who got booed off the stage at an anti-war event in my city because she represented a Catholic women's anti-abortion, anti-death penalty, anti-war group, which seems to me a perfectly logical position, if one I don't agree with.

True. I find it very odd that the most vocal anti-abortion folk also seem to be pro-death penalty and pro-war.


Hil R. - Nov 18, 2005 3:19:50 pm PST #5639 of 10003
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

A few times, I've gotten a call from the mother of a student with an excuse for why he didn't hand in his homework. These are college students. I've also had a few students try to argue a test grade up with some variation of, "I'm a good student. I don't deserve a D." There was none of the "I think that what I wrote here actually deserves more points than you gave it" argument, just, "I should get a better grade because I am not a person who gets Ds."