Jayne: We was just about to spring into action, Captain. Complicated escape and rescue op. Wash: I was going to watch. It was very exciting.

'Shindig'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


P.M. Marc - Nov 16, 2005 9:45:20 am PST #5018 of 10003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

If somebody fails because I turn them in, then the damage to that person is specific and harmful.

And deserved.


Emily - Nov 16, 2005 9:45:20 am PST #5019 of 10003
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Who would hire a graduate of Cheaters State University?

Political campaigns?


Scrappy - Nov 16, 2005 9:45:37 am PST #5020 of 10003
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I can see where grades are important if one is applying to grad school, but outside the academic world they never EVER come up. Employers want to know if you have a degree (whihc means you passed your needed classes of course), but grades don't matter. What matters is what you know and what you do with that knowledge. Tying ones' sense of accomplishment to grades (and I've done it myself) is dicey because a professor who isn't clear about expectations or even one who is going through a bad month can give a bad grade which has little to do with the important thing, what you learned, and the bad grade is really all about them.


Aims - Nov 16, 2005 9:48:08 am PST #5021 of 10003
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I see cheating as Bad Behavior. And, like for instance - here, if someone exhibits Bad Behavior, they're gonna get called on it, by whatever the parameters are. Here, those parameters are in thread then we go to the Stompies, etc. The parameters for vw are to report it to the prof. Which was the right thing to do, IMHO.


Gudanov - Nov 16, 2005 9:48:09 am PST #5022 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

Who would hire a graduate of Cheaters State University?

I think this was how Rove's career took off actually. He was involved in a minor election, played some really nasty political tricks and got noticed.


Steph L. - Nov 16, 2005 9:50:40 am PST #5023 of 10003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And I am a bit of a grade whore

I don't think there is a cure for this one. At least none I've found yet.

And now I'm earwormed with "Ain't No Cure For Love."


Jessica - Nov 16, 2005 9:52:06 am PST #5024 of 10003
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And deserved

This.


DavidS - Nov 16, 2005 9:52:26 am PST #5025 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And deserved.

Yeah, I'm not so righteous (note: righteous, not self righteous) in my moral choices that I'm going to fuck somebody else's life up to enforce my values.

Cheaters become incompetent at anything but cheating. That will catch up with them. (In most cases.)

As for the more general damage to academic probity or damage to an institution, I think of that on balance against fostering a culture of informing on others. That has its own - and to my mind even more -pernicious effects.


Trudy Booth - Nov 16, 2005 9:52:26 am PST #5026 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Moreover, the cheaters don't learn what they need to know to be a good nurse, and boy howdy is that going to be a problem when they go to take the licensing exam. Four years of nursing school down the toilet.

But what if they squeak by or manage to cheat on that too and some day I end up with a shitty nurse? Honor codes exist for a reason, not just "its good to be good".

There's a reason why snitch, tattletale, informer, rat, narc are all such unpleasant words.

Yeah, because people like to get away with shit. Vilifing the people who don't let you is just a means to that end.

The fact that they were doing it so openly and blatantly makes me think they're entitled little shits who never get called on anything. I'll admit a special hate-on for such folks.

And... any honor code I'm familiar with you turn them in or you're in violation yourself. If one has a problem with that one shouldn't agree to it in the first place.

in happier news, OTTERS WILL NOT BE MOVED! [link]


tommyrot - Nov 16, 2005 9:53:38 am PST #5027 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Who would hire a graduate of Cheaters State University?

Well if graduates of CSU don't want to go into politics, they can work at Enron or Haliburton.

Allegedly.