On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Trudy Booth - Oct 25, 2005 8:13:07 am PDT #441 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm going to be the voice of dissent and say that I don't think the non-paying of bills was a passive-agressive move. When you're severely depressed, you sometimes just can't deal with things, and reality twists, and it seems plausible that if you ignore them they'll go away. She probably didn't want to tell Gud she'd quit paying them, because she knew it was wrong, but couldn't bring herself to deal with them.

I think Raq may well have it right, Gud. Doesn't make it logistically any easier for you, but maybe less... scary?


Trudy Booth - Oct 25, 2005 8:14:53 am PDT #442 of 10003
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'd be afraid that would dry out the breast. How do you keep it moist?

It's never been dry, but I'm not sure why. We baste it plenty, that could be it. The stuffing doesn't go SUPER far.


Volans - Oct 25, 2005 8:15:40 am PDT #443 of 10003
move out and draw fire

I usually shove some lemon slices and thyme and butter up under the skin for flavour

I do this, and I cook the stuffing separately in order to make enough, and to not dry out the turkey. I've made turkey both with and without stuffing, and I really like it better without. Plus, every now and again we have vegetarian guests, so the stuffing needs to be untainted.

I also brine the turkey, and cook it breast down for part of the time. I'm obsessive about moist turkey. This may be because I don't really like turkey.

I am notoriously lax about food panics like stuffing salmonella. I think it's hooey. And yeah, R and I have both had interesting and severe food poisoning, but not from any food I've prepared. He even got cholera in Malaysia, which was excitingly medieval.


Ginger - Oct 25, 2005 8:20:41 am PDT #444 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Our practice is to jam as much stuffing as physically possible inside the bird, and then have a whole bunch of extra cooked alongside.

This would be us. I'm from the land of cornbread dressing.

My ex got cholera from an oyster shell. That was exciting.


Jars - Oct 25, 2005 8:22:11 am PDT #445 of 10003

I also brine the turkey, and cook it breast down for part of the time. I'm obsessive about moist turkey. This may be because I don't really like turkey.

Raq is me.

I am notoriously lax about food panics like stuffing salmonella. I think it's hooey.

And one more for the road.

I've been known to have the dog in one hand and the wooden spoon in the other. Which freaks out the guests, but no one's been sick yet, so I must be doing something right.


lisah - Oct 25, 2005 8:22:22 am PDT #446 of 10003
Punishingly Intricate

My ex got cholera from an oyster shell. That was exciting.

How do you know it was the shell and not the oyster?


Volans - Oct 25, 2005 8:24:53 am PDT #447 of 10003
move out and draw fire

ION, Happy Birthday brenda!


Ginger - Oct 25, 2005 8:45:08 am PDT #448 of 10003
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

How do you know it was the shell and not the oyster?

We were all eating the oysters, but only he cut his hand opening an oyster.

The salmonella from stuffing thing only happens when the turkey hasn't been cooked enough and then is left at room temperature. That leaves salmonella alive to chow down on stuffing, which is a great growing medium.


brenda m - Oct 25, 2005 8:48:29 am PDT #449 of 10003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Thanks, ya'll. Aside from the whole being at work thing, I'm having a pretty decent day. Just went and got my favourite salad for lunch - pears, gorgozola, dried cranberries, walnuts - and meeting the fam for drinks after work at our favourite swank hangout. And I just found out that one of my oldest friends is going to stop by. Then - fondue! I felt the need for something slightly oddball today.


Gudanov - Oct 25, 2005 8:52:04 am PDT #450 of 10003
Coding and Sleeping

Fondue is fun, it's been awhile since I've had that.

Happy Birthday Brenda!