How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious.

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Spike's Bitches 27: I'm Embarrassed for Our Kind.  

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Susan W. - Oct 31, 2005 10:28:35 am PST #1607 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Dammit, Aimee, I don't know that there's a problem. I just want to do due diligence to find out if there is so I can help her before it's too late! I'm trying to be a concerned mother here, and the pediatrician took me seriously enough to make the referrals.


Aims - Oct 31, 2005 10:29:58 am PST #1608 of 10003
Shit's all sorts of different now.

what I've been told of my childhood does color my expectations of what's normal.

Well, I was left handed and constantly stuck things up my nose. Your daughter is her own person and will do things at her own rate and if you keep stifiling her and trying to force her into this childhood milestone mold of yours, you are going to make her hate you before she's 5 years old.


Sparky1 - Oct 31, 2005 10:31:09 am PST #1609 of 10003
Librarian Warlord

I wonder if we should just preemptively get the tongue tie snipped just in case that's the problem.

Susan, I'm a total coward when it comes to doctors with sharp objects in their hands, so I might be reading this wrong, but she hasn't been diagnosed with this, so I'd be really afraid of a doctor who would cut without a diagnosis.

I don't suppose I can convince you that the wait until January is a good thing, i.e. one less thing to do while preparing/celebrating the holidays?


Susan W. - Oct 31, 2005 10:31:29 am PST #1610 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I am not FUCKING stifling her! I'm trying to help her. In case. IN CASE. What am I supposed to do, be all blase and assume nothing is wrong? That does her no good if there does turn out to be a problem.


Amy - Oct 31, 2005 10:33:06 am PST #1611 of 10003
Because books.

I wonder if we should just preemptively get the tongue tie snipped just in case that's the problem.

Well, the pediatrician should be able to tell you if that's the best idea. I know nothing about tongue ties, so I don't know what can result from them.

Call the school board, or the pediatrician, and ask what's available. It's hard to know, with your first, what's available because you're not around as many other moms as you are once they hit elementary school.

Also? I think you know, deep down, Annabel is perfectly bright. Speech can come later for some kids for a number of reasons, and Annabel shows every sign of being alert and curious and engaged with her world.


Aims - Oct 31, 2005 10:33:41 am PST #1612 of 10003
Shit's all sorts of different now.

To me, it seems like you are. Do you realize you have NEVER once come in here excited about what she has done? Almost every post of yours is about what she "hasn't" or "can't" done or do or what horrid thing might be wrong with her. You are worried she's not smart or intelligent because she is not speaking. Professionals have told you she's fine. Ohter parent's have told you she's fine. What more do you fucking want? A guarantee that she's as smart as you and dw? Well, you ain't gonna get it.


Susan W. - Oct 31, 2005 10:36:15 am PST #1613 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Do you realize you have NEVER once come in here excited about what she has done?

I'm excited about the things she does ALL THE TIME! I just don't talk about it because I'm so damn cautious about bragging after having been (rightly) called on my own arrogance--I don't want to perpetuate the problem by being arrogant on my daughter's behalf.


Aims - Oct 31, 2005 10:37:48 am PST #1614 of 10003
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Ok, then you are overcompensating by constantly talking about what's "wrong" with her or what she hasn't done.

God, be so completely excited about her! She's your daughter! Everything she does should be bragged about. BECAUSE SHE'S ANNABELLE. Not in relation to other kids and especially not you and dw. Let her be her.


Gris - Oct 31, 2005 10:41:34 am PST #1615 of 10003
Hey. New board.

Aimée, I think you're crossing boundaries like whoa, here. Susan's concern is her business. If she seeks comfort on the board by posting about things that are concerning/bugging her, then that's a valid use of the community - it's one I've been known to use it for. I'm not much of a poster when I'm excited, either. Whatsmore, I haven't gotten the impression that she spends all of her waking hours concerned about Annabel's wrongs at all - just that it's something she worries about occasionally, and posts about. Even MORE importantly, Annabelle does NOT read Bitches - you have no way of knowing that the worries Susan lets out here have any effect on her actual relationship.

ETA: And she can be excited, and also want to get a tongue tie fixed if it's causing a problem.

ETA2: However, Susan, I really do think waiting 'til January will not be the end of the world. If she's having speech issues related to a tongue tie, it is quite unlikely to be impairing her intellectual development, and as soon as the speech pathologists determine what's up, and fix it, she'll catch up double-quick. If it's something else, well, you're gonna have to deal with whatever it is when it's diagnosed, it'll probably be a long-term thing, and two months, even at this young age, will make a big difference. And if it's nothing, then there is nothing to worry about anyway. You already ARE expressing due diligence by seeking out the appointment - January will be soon enough..


Susan W. - Oct 31, 2005 10:42:04 am PST #1616 of 10003
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I mean, I'm sorry that I'm obviously such a FUCKING TERRIBLE AND INCOMPETENT MOTHER, but I'm TRYING, dammit. I'm doing my best. I love my daughter, and I try to show her that and give her what she needs to thrive to the best of my abilities. But obviously I'm just so FUCKING INCOMPETENT at this that whatever I do is only going to make Annabel worse off.