It's not like she blew me off. She just left with another guy, that's all.

Riley ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 39 and Holding  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 05, 2005 7:43:15 am PDT #3502 of 10002
What is even happening?

Oh. Duh. I'ma let that stand. That's NPR. I was thinking the name of the website was ohhellno.com


sarameg - Oct 05, 2005 7:44:47 am PDT #3503 of 10002

And when you tell the world to fuck off and bite you (sequence not mandatory), then what happens?

My black heart smiles.

FTR: I am cranky as cranky can be today.


bon bon - Oct 05, 2005 7:47:05 am PDT #3504 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

What's expressive association?

A first amendment right that the Court upheld in the Boy Scouts case. Who you associate with can be an expressive act that should not be unduly burdened by the government.


§ ita § - Oct 05, 2005 7:49:30 am PDT #3505 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Who you associate with can be an expressive act that should not be unduly burdened by the government.

Does that mean my company can fire me because of my religion too? Where are the boundaries drawn?


le nubian - Oct 05, 2005 7:50:45 am PDT #3506 of 10002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I thought our Constitution had "freedom of religion." Did something happen to our Constitution while I was asleep?


Jessica - Oct 05, 2005 7:52:10 am PDT #3507 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Who you associate with can be an expressive act that should not be unduly burdened by the government.

And not recieving federal funding qualifies as an undue burden?


bon bon - Oct 05, 2005 7:54:47 am PDT #3508 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Does that mean my company can fire me because of my religion too? Where are the boundaries drawn?

I don't know First Amendment all that well, so there's only so well I can parse this. My impression is that no, your organization does not use its membership "expressively", whereas the Scouts do.


lori - Oct 05, 2005 7:54:51 am PDT #3509 of 10002

They also could have asked Fred Flintstone. What's he gonna eat at the drive-in, now that brontosaurus burgers are no more?

Brontosaurus:apatosaurus :: chilean sea bass:patagonian toothfish?


bon bon - Oct 05, 2005 7:57:39 am PDT #3510 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

And not recieving federal funding qualifies as an undue burden?

I haven't read the case. All I know is the NPR para, so I assumed the burden would be not being able to discriminate in hiring on the basis of religion.


§ ita § - Oct 05, 2005 7:58:58 am PDT #3511 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My impression is that no, your organization does not use its membership "expressively", whereas the Scouts do.

Interesting. I wonder if some of the touchy feeling corps that blossomed in the 90s that give their employees twee designations are being expressive, or if when it comes down to the paperwork it's just a semantic dance.

I didn't think of Sally Ann as expressive in that way, but I do know precious little about them.