We'd be dead. Can't get paid if you're dead.

Mal ,'Serenity'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Oct 02, 2005 7:29:55 pm PDT #2689 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

and the song was funny

Oh cool! beth b will be in hell with me....


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 02, 2005 7:38:49 pm PDT #2690 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

You realize if all the Buffistas end up in hell, all threads are going to be Bureaucracy threads. And Schmoker, Zoe Finch, and Caroma will be the stompy feet.

You bastard, you stole my flava.

So come visit me in Memphis. I'll save the good one still in my fridge for you.

Oh, and in the recording of actual screams in hell, I didn't hear any children. Maybe they have a separate children's section in hell?

Who do you think is torturing the rest of the damned to get those screams?


tommyrot - Oct 02, 2005 7:43:49 pm PDT #2691 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

You realize if all the Buffistas end up in hell, all threads are going to be Bureaucracy threads.

I suppose next you're gonna tell me that hell has bad WiFi....


dw - Oct 02, 2005 7:58:19 pm PDT #2692 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

Taking apart the Serenity numbers:

According to Universal, 52% of the audience was 30+; 61% was male. Demographic-wise, ick. Not saying that 30+ male is ick (I am one, after all), but 30+ males don't tend to be repeat viewers in the theater.

$10.1M was pretty eh, though it did very well in places you'd think it would do well in (SF, Seattle). Per screen it did OK.

Overall box office was really off this weekend, though. 25% lower than last year.

The bad news in all of this is Universal talking up "ancillary revenues." IOW, DVDs.

The real problem, though, appears to be Universal's inability to get Serenity to appeal to anyone who didn't watch Firefly. The campaign worked well to get the fans in the theater, but when you're saying that 40% of the weekend audience is fans... shouldn't it be 20% with a show that never topped 10M viewers? They really botched something in the campaign.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 02, 2005 8:04:23 pm PDT #2693 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Honestly, I don't see any evidence of a botched campaign. It may just be that the concept itself has limited appeal and isn't going to do better than that. But I have no problems with the marketing blitz I've seen from Universal - ads have been everywhere, and most of the ones I've seen have been good representations of the movie.


P.M. Marc - Oct 02, 2005 8:15:21 pm PDT #2694 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Not saying that 30+ male is ick (I am one, after all), but 30+ males don't tend to be repeat viewers in the theater.

Unless the 30+ males in question are fanboys, in which case, all bets are off, and they probably got the repeat in on day the first.

Almost everyone in our viewing party was a 29+ male, most of them were 30+. Many of them were on at least their second viewing.

Honestly, I don't see any evidence of a botched campaign. It may just be that the concept itself has limited appeal and isn't going to do better than that. But I have no problems with the marketing blitz I've seen from Universal - ads have been everywhere, and most of the ones I've seen have been good representations of the movie.

And, what Matt said.


libkitty - Oct 02, 2005 9:36:53 pm PDT #2695 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Most of my party was women. There were three large fan groups in the theater. One was almost all men. Mine was almost all women (there were two men). The third was more mixed, but I would guess slightly more women. Those not in fan groups seemed fairly evenly divided.

My only complaint about the campaign is the blue poster. Blegh. I think they should have done more with the Serenity logo and less with blue Mal and River. That said, I don't think that the poster is probably keeping people away. I mean, I love the Lord of War poster and it has gotten good reviews, and I'm not running off to go see that one.

I would think that this movie would do well on DVD, but I'd like to see it do better in theaters first.


Lee - Oct 02, 2005 9:43:43 pm PDT #2696 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Like ita and Matt, several of us had some honey crisp apple today, when -t's step dad served it to us. Ours was yummy.


libkitty - Oct 02, 2005 9:52:21 pm PDT #2697 of 10002
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I'm going to have to look for these apples. I discovered Jazz apples in Seattle this summer. Yummy. But I haven't been able to find them at home. Bummer. They were the first I've found that I actually liked a little better than Braeburns.


Volans - Oct 02, 2005 10:11:07 pm PDT #2698 of 10002
move out and draw fire

I think it would be interesting to compare Serenity's weekend box office to opening weekends of other spaceship/other planet/special effects movies.

You know what doesn't work? Repeated uses of the word "care" in a form letter that's signed by "Customer Care Representative #746."