whole portentious school
Portentious? Or pretentious?
I agree about VU - when I first heard them in college, I immediately filed them under "goth" or proto-goth. And the same when I later heard Nico's solo albums.
The author's reasoning for The Doors being the biggest proto-goth influence seems to be:
- Morrison was nihilistic and self-destructive
- "People Are Strange" was covered by Echo and the Bunnymen for the
Lost Boys
soundtrack
- There's a poster of Morrison in the vampires' lair in
Lost Boys
I could almost see an argument for "The End" (as Jon said), and for Morrison's poetry, but I'm just not sure that whatever goth's roots are in the 60s are much linked to The Doors. I mean, not every self-destructive musician is goth.
No, but Goth Marvin Gaye? Unintentionally amusing. As is Goth Janis.
Portentious? Or pretentious?
Full of portent. Scrying and...eh. I'm not fully invested in this. But I do see a similarity in the Lizard King Mythic Rock/Ritual Ceremony Boohahaha vibe of The Doors and similarly gothic moodmasters. It's a mood thing. Doors songs: "Riders on the Storm," "The End," "The Crystal Ship," "The Horse Latitudes." These are all full of gloomy gothy conceits.
I don't think the self-destructive element is inherently goth. In fact, goths as a group are more prone to growing old gracefully and showing exquisite taste in their furnishings. Metrosexuals of the Night!
Metrosexuals of the Night / Unite and take over
Tried living in the day time
Instead of the dark
But before I began ...
I was bored before I even began
But I do see a similarity in the Lizard King Mythic Rock/Ritual Ceremony Boohahaha vibe of The Doors and similarly gothic moodmasters.
Plus, The Cult really REALLY wanted to be The Doors reborn for a while. But I agree that VU was far more influential to goth music.
Metrosexuals of the Night!
Band name! Band name!
I'm calling dibs on it
right now.
Because when the other half of the Gothic Fashion HiveMind and I get around to forming our band (that will make us FAMOUS in Japan, I tell you. They will WORSHIP us!), no other name will do. Honest.
Speaking of covers (OK, I'm a day behind...)
If NotReallyASpring is around, the 125 Records site has an mp3 from the forthcoming Scott Miller/Anton Barbeau collaboration. It's a Stones cover.
Okay, even on dial-up, I've almost used my 50 free downloads in one day at e-music. The only full albums I've taken are Shoot Our the Lights and In The Aeroplane, Over The Sea. And I took all but few songs of Dinosaur Jr.'s Bug, an album twice lost by me already.
I don't think the self-destructive element is inherently goth.
Yeah, for all the death imagery and whatnot, goths don't usually strike me as the type to get really self destructive.
Unlike, say, big chunks of the punk and blues crowds.
Sue's got some badass downloads!
