But I do see a similarity in the Lizard King Mythic Rock/Ritual Ceremony Boohahaha vibe of The Doors and similarly gothic moodmasters.

Plus, The Cult really REALLY wanted to be The Doors reborn for a while. But I agree that VU was far more influential to goth music.

Metrosexuals of the Night!

Band name! Band name!

I'm calling dibs on it right now. Because when the other half of the Gothic Fashion HiveMind and I get around to forming our band (that will make us FAMOUS in Japan, I tell you. They will WORSHIP us!), no other name will do. Honest.

Speaking of covers (OK, I'm a day behind...)

If NotReallyASpring is around, the 125 Records site has an mp3 from the forthcoming Scott Miller/Anton Barbeau collaboration. It's a Stones cover.

Okay, even on dial-up, I've almost used my 50 free downloads in one day at e-music. The only full albums I've taken are Shoot Our the Lights and In The Aeroplane, Over The Sea. And I took all but few songs of Dinosaur Jr.'s Bug, an album twice lost by me already.

I don't think the self-destructive element is inherently goth.

Yeah, for all the death imagery and whatnot, goths don't usually strike me as the type to get really self destructive.

Unlike, say, big chunks of the punk and blues crowds.

Sue's got some badass downloads!

Thanks Corwood.

I'm embarrassed to admit that I've never heard Shoot Out the Lights before. I've heard the song, and I've heard about the album for years, but it never made it's way into my hands until now.

You can NOT make this stuff up. From his official site:

Charles Mingus's Cat Toilet Training Program.

My favorite part: "Don't be surprised if you hear the toilet flush in the middle of the night. A cat can learn how to do it, spurred on by his instinct to cover up. His main thing is to cover up."

Tina, that's crazy. But, having read Beneath The Underdog, I don't think it's atypical for Mingus.

Sue, hope you enjoy Shoot Out The Lights. Like many of my favorite albums, I found it to be a slow burner, where I didn't love it immediately, but over time it became my favorite R< album.

More crazy:

NEW YORK- The latest volume in Continuum Books' eclectic 33 1/3 series of little books about great albums may not feature the most famous band in the world, but fans of indie rock legends Neutral Milk Hotel have snapped up nearly every copy of Kim Cooper¹s book, requiring a surprise reprint just six weeks after it went on sale.

Series editor David Barker says, "It's fantastic to see Kim's book off to such a great start, and outselling our books about Springsteen and Bowie. The story is clearly resonating with a lot of fans. The book's success is also a tribute to clued-up independent and online stores--since it's basically unavailable in 95% of regular bookstores in America."

The highly influential Neutral Milk Hotel broke up in 1998, not long after the release of their masterpiece, "In the Aeroplane Over The Sea." The album continues to sell 25,000 copies a year mainly by word of mouth, and was recently given ten retroactive stars by Pitchfork.com. The album was reissued by England's Domino label in September.

Kim Cooper's "Neutral Milk Hotel's 'In the Aeroplane Over The Sea'" explores the deep friendships that fed the band's evolution, its role within the Elephant 6 creative community and previously unpublished information on recordings, songwriting and touring, and explains some of the reasons why band leader Jeff Mangum felt compelled to retreat from public life just as his band was taking off.

requiring a surprise reprint just six weeks after it went on sale.

Wow. I am glad I ordered mine when I did - I should get it before the end of the week.