We are being pokey as hell and just finished episode 4. I have to say, while I'm impressed with Logan's emotional growth and hard work to get there, I am still 100% Team Leo. I have always loved Leo unreasonably.

Has everyone watched s4 VM now?

We just watched episode 6 tonight. We are so damn slow. (I want to be clear, here: it's August 27, so I know everything is fair game to be discussed without spoiler font. I'll take my chances in this thread from here on out.)

And I'm still 100% Team Leo. Although I'd be equally as happy with Team Nicole.

Mmm, Nicole.

Snagged from Teppy in Natter:

I got my hair cut, went to Trader Joe's, went to Staples, and put gas in the car. And then I kind of loafed for the rest of the day. We ordered Thai carry-out for dinner (yes, I know I went to Trader Joe's today and therefore we had food THAT IS NOT THE POINT) and finally watched the last Veronica Mars episode.

And?

Well. I actually spoiled myself because I was so worried that Keith was going to die. I mean, they actually did the whole one-day-until-retirement thing! (Enrico Colantoni 4EVA, man. I love him.)

So I was at least prepared for the brutal end. I mean, I am still 100% Team Leo, even after the entire 4th season, but I didn't want Logan to be blown up (presumably) (I mean, no body = no death) (IJS). I really liked Logan's character development, and losing that sucks.

Did Rob Thomas really need to kill Logan (almost immediately after getting married) to tell the story he needed to tell? I don't know.

He claims that he did, but his explanations will make flames shoot from the side of your face.

I agree with Una on that one.

I think the season was perfectly set up for Logan and Veronica to part ways. He wanted to get married. She didn't. He seemingly passed her in dealing with his issues. She could have actually cheated with Leo, even if it was just a kiss on the doorstep, and he could have Rhett Butlered her.

but I didn't want Logan to be blown up (presumably) (I mean, no body = no death) (IJS)

Rob has been pretty straight-forward on saying Logan is dead. Jason Dohring did interviews and videos confirming it. I think this is the end for him (unless he haunts her dreams like Lilly Kane did in s1).

If they get another season, the plan is to have Veronica be something of a roving PI . Rob wants her to be able to have other relationships (which I can see) and take her outside of Neptune. Tina Majorino (Mac) didn't return for s4, because she liked where the movie left her character better than where this season would have left her. [link]

I don't care so much (some, but not ridiculously) that they killed off Logan, but I think given the show's history, if you want to kill off a Logan, a Keith, a Mac, a Weevil, or a Wallace (maybe even a Dick), that you make the season-long mystery about that. Doing so would have given fans time to come to terms.

The way season 4 played out, Logan was killed as an afterthought, and then we flashed forward to a year later. Veronica didn't have any time to grieve, so neither did the audience.

Rob may not envision new seasons of VM as an ensemble work, but I think he could have done a better transition to a new, more anthology-like format.

I think Veronica and Logan needed to end,but the way this worked felt false for Logan. (And Veronica). I didn't expect the wedding to happen, because it felt so false. He should have left. I think this was a way of saying never, which I get.

I'm annoyed that they made me like Logan for the first time ever just to kill him.