All right, yes, date and shop and hang out and go to school and save the world from unspeakable demons. You know, I wanna do girlie stuff!

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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smonster - May 09, 2007 6:08:41 am PDT #5404 of 5730
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I agree with a lot of what Cindy said, unsurprisingly.

I'm along so far with the ride with Piz and Veronica, mostly b/c Piz has been surprising me right along with Veronica. Interested to see where, if anywhere, it goes.

I have this whole thing about how the VM writers confuse stereotypes with archetypes, but I can't tell if it's an actual theory or just a cleverish soundbyte. All I know is, it's now bugging me in some form every week. Last week it was the redneck. This week it was Semites for the Savior (hmmm, who can we say that Fellows insulted just to have a red herring suspect?). I'm already primed to be peevish about next week.

I know it's neo-noir, I know everyone's corrupt, but... it's all so simplistic. Is it just me?


bon bon - May 09, 2007 6:20:03 am PDT #5405 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I know it's neo-noir, I know everyone's corrupt, but... it's all so simplistic. Is it just me?

I don't know about the confusion of archetypes with stereotypes, but the characters that formed the mystery in last week's episode were as desperately ill-conceived as the plots in One Angry Veronica and the SPE episode. So I would argue that occasionally the show has some very bad judgment in the service of the standalone.


sumi - May 09, 2007 6:55:11 am PDT #5406 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

Interview with Paul Rudd and Ken Marino.


smonster - May 09, 2007 8:44:39 am PDT #5407 of 5730
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Googling to figure out what SPE stood for, I found one blogger's reaction to that episode. Well said, IMHO.

For me, it's not just the standalones. I'm still not over the Lilith House thing. I feel like a lot of characters' layers are pastede on yay, if you know what I mean.

Ehh. Not explaining myself well.


bon bon - May 09, 2007 8:50:59 am PDT #5408 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

That's Corwood!


Polter-Cow - May 09, 2007 8:52:17 am PDT #5409 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That's what I thought, bon!


smonster - May 09, 2007 11:32:20 am PDT #5410 of 5730
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Ha! You know, if I had taken time to look at the name or some of the right-hand links, I might even have realized that.

Well done, then, Corwood.


Topic!Cindy - May 09, 2007 2:51:25 pm PDT #5411 of 5730
What is even happening?

Next week's cold open (or some sort of extended preview -- about 4 minutes) is up at VEOH: [link]


IAmNotReallyASpring - May 09, 2007 6:08:54 pm PDT #5412 of 5730
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

The fake songs (both the brief My Little Pony bit in the TV spot and the one Desmond sang during the concert) were pretty catchy.

They weren't fake songs (or at least the concert one wasn't) - it was 'My Before and After' by Cotton Mathers from their album Kon Tiki. Which is a pretty darn sound source to reacquisition songs from.

Scott and I couldn't figure out why the undie-clad groupie was objectionable.

It was Ashley from Two Guys and A Girl! She was hot then and she's hot now and I think that was part of why her bedroom exchange with Paul Rudd was like a conversation between two Wombles for all the sense it made to me.

He's not the love of her life,

Oh, why do you say that? I think he's lovely and the handholding was all kinds of 'aww'. For all this show's seemingly inexhaustible richness and wit, I doesn't often move me but that did.

ETA If anyone is interested in 'My Before and After', it's buffistarawkable.


Polter-Cow - May 09, 2007 7:54:11 pm PDT #5413 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Idolator did you one better, Spring. Free download. Shabam!