Inara: I think she looks adorable. Mal: Yeah, but I never said it.

'Shindig'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Daisy Jane - Dec 04, 2006 12:31:26 pm PST #4673 of 5730
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

My sister goes to Southern Methodist University in Dallas, and apparently it's quite horrendous there, especially the sororities. WAY too many Southern Belle princesses.

Er...yeah.


Polter-Cow - Dec 04, 2006 1:31:35 pm PST #4674 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It can't be saving that much money for the network, can it?

It saves them 3.3 million dollars.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 04, 2006 3:41:44 pm PST #4675 of 5730
What is even happening?

Is that per episode, P-C, or total?

I'm wondering if they'll run the final set of episodes for this season during May sweeps, or if they'll try to squish 'em in, before or after, then, and if that didn't contribute to the trimmed order.

That said, the ratings were good (for VM and for The CW), last week.


Amy - Dec 04, 2006 3:58:34 pm PST #4676 of 5730
Because books.

It saves them 3.3 million dollars.

For two episodes?! Wow. Then again, they do have a big regular cast, and all those locations to arrange and pay for. I imagine, aside from the cast's salaries, a sitcom is much cheaper.


Polter-Cow - Dec 04, 2006 5:55:09 pm PST #4677 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Is that per episode, P-C, or total?

Total.


Kristen - Dec 04, 2006 6:00:08 pm PST #4678 of 5730

That might be pretty reasonable. I saw a thing recently where they said the average cost of producing a one hour drama was $2M-4M per episode.


Invisible Green - Dec 04, 2006 6:42:24 pm PST #4679 of 5730

Yeah, $3.3M is really cheap for two episodes.

I'm wondering if they'll run the final set of episodes for this season during May sweeps, or if they'll try to squish 'em in, before or after, then, and if that didn't contribute to the trimmed order.

I remember reading something about The CW wanting to try a new show in VM's time slot sometime when VM's on hiatus. Maybe that would be post-Feb. sweeps, so that VM would return for May sweeps.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 05, 2006 3:21:28 am PST #4680 of 5730
What is even happening?

Yeah, $3.3M is really cheap for two episodes.

That's what I thought, too. I seem to recall BtVS having a per episode price of about that, at one point during the seven years.

I remember reading something about The CW wanting to try a new show in VM's time slot sometime when VM's on hiatus. Maybe that would be post-Feb. sweeps, so that VM would return for May sweeps.
There is another show for that slot, but I'm not sure when they're going to start airing it. Maybe they're not even sure which one they'll run for sweeps. It's not like they've got a stable full of ratings powerhouses. Poor CW. They added 1 and 1 and got 1.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 07, 2006 4:53:31 am PST #4681 of 5730
What is even happening?

Question: I've just read the news about how Rob Thomas wants to make Veronica Mars into a boring, lousy, "safe" stand-alone show. No arc episodes anymore, only emotional drama will connect the episodes. Tell me this ain't true.— Peter
Ausiello: It's true — the stand-alone part, not the "boring, lousy, safe" part — and here's Rob Thomas' reasoning: "Our fear is that the big mysteries are keeping casual TV viewers away, and it's very difficult to engage Veronica in a multi-episode mystery without making it extremely personal. Season 1 was built around the mystery. Veronica's best friend was dead. Every series regular was intertwined with the mystery. Without replacing the cast with each mystery and/or killing Wallace, I'm not sure we can devise enough personal connection to a case to keep the momentum we had in Season 1." I'm of the opinion that a self-contained Veronica is better than no Veronica.

Oh my word, Rob. It's season three. If you get a season 4, kill Lianne. It's her mother. Deadbeat or not, you don't get much more personal. If you get a season 5, bring back Duncan and kill him (quickly). He's her first love. If you get a season 6, kill Mac or Wallace, her only true friends. If you get a season 7, kill Keith. Tim's e-mail address is in his profile, honey.


Invisible Green - Dec 07, 2006 8:59:31 am PST #4682 of 5730

I've always thought that killing off Wallace would be a good final season mystery. However, I wouldn't want every season to revolve around a murder. I'm gonna miss the long story arcs.