Angel: How're you feeling? Faith: Like I did mushrooms and got eaten by a bear.

'A Hole in the World'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Topic!Cindy - Nov 29, 2006 1:16:30 pm PST #4557 of 5730
What is even happening?

Wow, I remember her face from the premiere, and that's who I was thinking of, if I was asking if there was a shaved-headed black woman. I think she also might have been seated behind Veronica in the food court, when V got drugged a few episodes back, but the name "Nancy" was totally filed alongside a mental picture of yet another indistinguishable white, blonde girl.


Narrator - Nov 29, 2006 1:27:32 pm PST #4558 of 5730
The evil is this way?

I think the writers provided all the critical clues all season long --- we (most of us) didn't put it together before hand. Which is fine. I like being surprised. And the story was pretty good. But the execution of the story felt at times stilted and uneven. This may be a story I like better on rewatching.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 29, 2006 2:09:06 pm PST #4559 of 5730
What is even happening?

This may be a story I like better on rewatching.

Do you mean the whole nine, Narrator, or the last episode?

I'm planning on re-watching 3.09, tonight, to see if I am less irked by the Nancy plot point. I think I expected it to be revealed (that she lied, or [less likely] that Moe raped her) and when it wasn't revealed, my strongest feeling at the end was, "That's it?"

Rob always does cram everything into the finale. I get it, in a way. He doesn't want to give away the farm, beforehand. But it does make for some difficult pacing. I'm not sure if rewatching the whole 9 will help with that. It's not like we had re-run interruptions.

I have another question. Did Mercer and Moe ever share any scenes at all? Did one ever mention the other. Did we ever see the picture of Mercer and Moe, before last night?


Polter-Cow - Nov 29, 2006 2:16:05 pm PST #4560 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Did Mercer and Moe ever share any scenes at all? Did one ever mention the other. Did we ever see the picture of Mercer and Moe, before last night?

No. Initially, Rob was going to have Moe mention that he gave up his single to Mercer in order to establish a connection between them, but he thought that would tip his hand too early. I like the line about the life-changing experiment better. I think they did a really good job of making the clues both obvious and not obvious.


Narrator - Nov 29, 2006 2:25:27 pm PST #4561 of 5730
The evil is this way?

Do you mean the whole nine, Narrator, or the last episode?

The whole 9. Which will be difficult since I didn't tape the first 8.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 29, 2006 3:30:39 pm PST #4562 of 5730
What is even happening?

Narrator, I lost your email, when you get a chance, please e-mail me at my profile address (click on my user name in this post, and you'll be taken to my profile, which has my address).

No. Initially, Rob was going to have Moe mention that he gave up his single to Mercer in order to establish a connection between them, but he thought that would tip his hand too early. I like the line about the life-changing experiment better. I think they did a really good job of making the clues both obvious and not obvious.
I figured if the prison experiment was going to tie in, Lucky-Tim would be the Boy-Meets-World-Boy analogue, and Moe (and that hair) was the Freaks&Geeks analogue.

Did we know Mercer participated in the experiment, until we saw the picture, last night?


meara - Nov 29, 2006 3:30:47 pm PST #4563 of 5730

I really liked that despite the eggings, the feminists were shown doing something really positive by distributing the GHB detection things.

Yes. Very true. I was happy to see that....except we didn't see the "feminists". We just saw the one. (Yeah, yeah, paying actors and shit...they were all egging and tipping the car!!) (Or, what everyone else already said)

I thought the egging the car was kinda cool....but taking it to tipping the car seemed unrealistic. I guess because egging is from a distance, whereas the tipping---what are you going to do? Wreck his car? Crush him? It seemed...unlikely.

Hah! And Cindy brings the logic with the actual dates. Good point on the "Why the heck would any of them be around/know each other on Aug 13??"

And I, too, was a little puzzled by how the hell Moe has a dorm room door that locks people IN.

I expect there's a good chance that whoever killed the dean may well have followed whatever plans Veronica laid out in her paper, because such is her life.

True! Fun!


Topic!Cindy - Nov 29, 2006 3:31:53 pm PST #4564 of 5730
What is even happening?

I want Clemmons to replace the dean, and I don't care how contrived it is.


Nora Deirdre - Nov 29, 2006 3:37:44 pm PST #4565 of 5730
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

And I, too, was a little puzzled by how the hell Moe has a dorm room door that locks people IN.

I'm kind of OK to kinda sorta handwave this and maybe it wasn't as hardcore a locking in as Veronica thought, due to the GHB. I don't know exactly how he could have rigged the door to keep it from opening, but I wonder if a non-drugged Veronica could have figured it out. That may well be stretching things though.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 29, 2006 3:52:58 pm PST #4566 of 5730
What is even happening?

I finally fanwanked the lock, by deciding that Mercer made Moe install it, so he could lock him in, whenever they wanted to get in touch with their prison experiment psychoses.