I'm getting a little bit of a BtVS S6 vibe this season -- Veronica Learns the Hard Way That Life Is Not Simple! Or Easy! Or Black and White!

And I'm getting a serious BtVS S6 vibe off the reaction a lot of folks are having - poor-abused-woobie-Logan-why-is-Veronica-such-a-bitca-to-him vs. poor-bad-boy-chasing-Veronica-needs-to-get-a-clue-and-wash- that-man-right-out-of-her-life. Yikes.

for the record, the way Veronica's been treating Logan isn't the only problem i have with her. she's been an equal opportunity bitch all season.

And I'm getting a serious BtVS S6 vibe off the reaction a lot of folks are having - poor-abused-woobie-Logan-why-is-Veronica-such-a-bitca-to-him vs. poor-bad-boy-chasing-Veronica-needs-to-get-a-clue-and-wash-
that-man-right-out-of-her-life. Yikes.

That, too.

for the record, the way Veronica's been treating Logan isn't the only problem i have with her. she's been an equal opportunity bitch all season.

Wrod.

Hey, it's Mr. Sheffield!

Man, I loved the Big Lebowski shout-out and the Patty Hearst casting, even if her acting left a lot to be desired. But yeah, I hated the "feminists are behind the rapes" thing and Veronica's freakin' self-righteous attitude.

I'm not EVEN going to start in on how angry I am that RT went that route. That's almost enough to get me to stop watching the show. That's some seriously weak-ass shit.

I...but he didn't go that route. Veronica is taking a guess, yes, and she is also explicitly saying how very counterproductive is, just like everyone has been saying all season. I don't understand why it's bad for fictional characters to do something especially when it's clear the show doesn't condone it in the least.

she's been an equal opportunity bitch all season.

Someone on my flist linked this analysis, which I like.

Patty Hearst casting, even if her acting left a lot to be desired.

That's putting it lightly.

Sorry, P-C, I'm with Steph. The feminists have been badly written as castrating hateful bitches with vengeance the only thing on their minds from the beginning of the season, and to have the reveal be that they actually faked a bunch of the rapes, and themselves raped Chip Diller?

Nope. I don't like it. Not at all.

What Consuela and Steph said.

Someone on my flist linked this analysis, which I like.

I saw that at your lj. some good points, but it seems to focus on her treatment of Logan and not her treatment of every other person she's encountered this season. like i said, her treatment of him is only a small fraction of the problem i have with her.

Again, people missing the important point. Fern called Veronica Buffy. Clearly, it's Glen (is Glory is Ben). I've got to warn Buffy. There's every chance she might be next.

What?

I don't know if I can be objective about this episode. Who wrote it? The dialogue was possibly the funniest I've ever heard, in any episode, yet the episode was heavy. I laughed so hard when Dick and Veronica had their exposition scene about Chip that I was left breathless and not just in tears, but crying -- making the actual crying noises, and stuff. Ryan Hansen is a gem. I had to rewind the scene twice. And then I watched the episode a second time.

I felt so sorry for Logan at the end. Oof.

I don't think Veronica's been a bitch all season. So this does, to me, feel very much like the latter seasons of Buffy, with the B/S fen factions.

I understand how Veronica would feel about Logan having a bodyguard tail her, particularly because she was scared out of her skin and knew someone was following her all that time, but all that time, it was someone Logan hired (sort of like Buffy, in Pangs, when she didn't know Angel was watching her, but she knew someone was, and I am so watching "Pangs" sometime today or tonight, ijs).

On the other hand, Logan found her drugged, unconscious, and partially shaved last week! And only found her by chance. I totally get why he had someone following her. And in his world, bodyguards probably aren't the big thing they'd be to Veronica. I thought in addition to being a manifestation of their romantic complications, it was also a nice grace note with regard to their socio-economic class divide.

I thought Keith was a little off, last night. Keith is usually uber protective, and yet he knows there's a campus rapist who drugs people, and that his own daughter was found drugged, but *he* didn't hire a bodyguard? Scratch that. *He* wasn't tailing her, himself? I don't know if I buy it.

I've got to have more coffee and think about the feminist concerns Teppy, Consuela, and P-C are discussing. I liked what Veronica has to say about it. I see Veronica as a feminist. I think she would self-define as a feminist, and she's one of the show's moral voices. That said, the attack of Chip was uber disturbing. But I expect people to do evil things in service of good causes, in Neptune. I just do. Even our moral centers aren't above it. I mean, Keith and Veronica exploited a street person in this very episode -- hired him to lie. They hired him to lie, in order to help an heiress keep more of her fortune. In Neptune, everybody's a little corrupt.

Without full caffeination, I'll say I resent the idea that any cause I support has to be treated with kid gloves, and that all fictional characters who are written as identifying with that cause must be upright characters.

Then again, I've spent my entire life watching clergy and religious people portrayed, time and time again, as either evil doers, or ineffectual fools, if not downright delusional saps. And I usually see parents portrayed as out of touch, controlling, too self-involved, or oblivious to what's really important, until their children teach them A Very Special Lesson.

I'm used to "my people" being pigeon-holed. This is just another case.