Nilly: I understand exactly what you mean. I'm not gosh-wow-best-thing-right-now about the show, but I do like several of the characters a great deal.

That their partying is much more "mature" than it should be is something I have know idea about -- does that kind of partying even exist in real life?

The new-kid-friend (I want to say Wallace, but there's another character that has a name with a 'W' at the beginning, I think, and did I mention how bad I am with names?)

Heh. Yeah, that's Wallace. The other one is Weevil.

I get what you're saying about the confidence, I think, but I don't see it. Maybe I'm just used to the TV-type high school characters. And I think it might also be due to the culture, like you said. The rich kid mentality.

The confident-rich-kid-party-lifestyle never struck me as being over the top, or unbelievable. They're sixteen year olds with lots of money, no parental supervision, and horrible adult role-models. Them not partying would strike me as more unbelievable. The thing I always felt was a bit surreal was Weevil and his thuggish bike gang. Again, it could just be a cultural reference point thing.

The thing I always felt was a bit surreal was Weevil and his thuggish bike gang.

I don't think it's a cultural thing, because they seem just as threatening as a couple of 6-year-olds on tricycles. There's no real sense of menace to them at all.

There's no real sense of menace to them at all.

Yep. Ever since Veronica rescued Wallace, they've been a kinder, gentler gang.

Hey, I still don't have TV. Did VM start yet for fall, or what? And how in the hell do I see it? are any torrent sites still working?

It starts Wednesday.

Woo! I think maybe I can go over to a friends house.

Interview with Rob Thomas up at popgurls.

Interview with Jason Dohring up at MI.net.