It's a real burden being right so often.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Frankenbuddha - Oct 31, 2006 5:52:20 pm PST #4073 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

All in all, it wasn't a phenomenal episode, but it was consistently enjoyable.

I like that a lot happened, but it was over-stuffed. I thought the whole Keith subplot with the Dean was one plot too many, and was also the hardest to swallow in terms of credibility. And as I said (and I don't know if I was just distracted and missed something obvious) I couldn't parse exactly what went down with Wallace, ultimately.


tiggy - Oct 31, 2006 6:14:39 pm PST #4074 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

my favorite scene was when Lamb came and arrested Weevil. that parting shot to Logan had me laughing for several minutes.


Vonnie K - Oct 31, 2006 6:28:05 pm PST #4075 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I thought that was the best episode of the season, hands down. Actual witty dialog! EXCELLENT Veronica/Weevil interactions! Honestly, that jail cell scene where they shared a rueful laugh after Weevil asked her why she couldn't take him at his words made me melt, it was so lovely. I don't ship them or anything, but I felt the rapport and the weight of the history between them, and I just loved that.

Of course, Cliff makes everything about 20x better. And I am actually sorta-interested by the Hearst rapist storyline after that last reveal. The lack of the the feminists and the frat boys helped a lot.

The episode had a rather S1-like feel to it -- even the overpacked multiple storylines. Briskly-paced as well. It officially got me out of S3 apathy. Yay!


Kalshane - Oct 31, 2006 7:35:24 pm PST #4076 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Did anyone catch, during the scene with Lamb doing the robot, the deputy(s) in the background commenting on it? While it was kind of amusing, the tone of the speaker(s) seemed a little forced.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 01, 2006 3:08:41 am PST #4077 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Lamb doing the robot

Oh god, I'd completely forgotten that moment. Loved it.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 01, 2006 3:13:32 am PST #4078 of 5730
What is even happening?

Great episode! The Wallace plot was definitely ambiguous as to whether he was caught or if he turned narc (but I don't think Wallace is the narc type). I suspect he was set up by his teammate. I hope, unlike his father plot point last season, this development turns into an actual story for Wallace.

Did everyone realize the nasty bio dad was Richarch Grieco? Between (my) blurting out "Dream on, Jump Street," and Veronica's "Enjoy the veal," my VM fandom Tourettes and BtVS fandom Tourettes were in over-drive.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 01, 2006 3:18:03 am PST #4079 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Did everyone realize the nasty bio dad was Richarch Grieco?

smacks forehead

I saw him in the credits, and then wondered why the actor looked familiar.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 01, 2006 4:49:30 am PST #4080 of 5730
What is even happening?

Since we learned of it, I suspected Claire's rape might not be legit, because Fern got the page that notified her about it while on the air with Nish, Piz, and the frat boys. The only thing that has me doubting my suspicions is that Claire does look so completely wasted in the ATM photo, and it's not like she knew someone was going to be using the ATM photo. I wonder if she was so wasted that someone decided it was an opportune time to make her look like another victim by shaving her head, without Claire actually being complicit in fakery.

The episode had a rather S1-like feel to it -- even the overpacked multiple storylines. Briskly-paced as well. It officially got me out of S3 apathy. Yay!

It did. Well, the prior two episodes had already gotten rid of any apathy I experienced after the first two, but this episode had a particularly right VM-feel to it.

I've seen a lot of VM commentary with some variation on the theme that no other season will ever be what S1 was, because the story lines were all so personal to Veronica in season 1. I think they could have made her connection to this one more personal, but I'm sort of glad they didn't. I mean, it made sense that Buffy was depressed in season 6 and isolated in season 7, but some of it was hard watching.

That said, I think there was another element in VM season 1 that made it so compelling. It was really Veronica against the world. It's not just that she was an outcast at school; she literally had no one she felt she could trust. I mean, even Keith, who she largely trusted, was keeping things from her (for her own sake, but from V's perspective, it was frustrating) and there was the whole spector of her paternity weighing on her. She was world-turned-upside-down girl, and had no good way to judge who she could trust, nor how much she could trust them. She's less isolated now, and has had enough experience with most of the people in her life to understand you can't trust everyone all the time, but you know the people in your life well enough to have a decent idea about most of what they say and do.

I thought it was an interesting choice last night that Veronica was so sure, at first, that Weevil was involved. It's totally in character for her. It is by allowing herself to jump to conclusions (or taking small steps, and there conclusions are) that she gets enough information to find out what's really going on.

On the other hand, I was a little frustrated by it at first, because the crime seemed like nothing we've ever seen Weevil do. She had some personal (and therefore emotional, and not so objective) reasons for suspecting him, though. Firstly, he turned on her as soon as he realized she was back with Logan. Secondly, it was Lilly's necklace that was taken from her, and Weevil could want to take that as a memento, and/or because he would now think Veronica didn't deserve it.

I thought that was the best episode of the season, hands down. Actual witty dialog! EXCELLENT Veronica/Weevil interactions! Honestly, that jail cell scene where they shared a rueful laugh after Weevil asked her why she couldn't take him at his words made me melt, it was so lovely. I don't ship them or anything, but I felt the rapport and the weight of the history between them, and I just loved that.

Yes! And that grace note what was what finally made her so-strong-suspicion-of-Weevil work for me.


Amy - Nov 01, 2006 4:52:49 am PST #4081 of 5730
Because books.

Halloween completely screwed me up. I thought it was later than it was when we got home, and then someone had Fox on and I realized House was coming back ... and at about 9:45 I realized I had missed VM. Bad viewer. No biscuit.


Jon B. - Nov 01, 2006 5:52:39 am PST #4082 of 5730
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Loved Veronica just snatching the necklace back from the snotty little girl and driving away.

Yes, this.

Two funny bits that no one's mentioned yet:

  • Cliff's Olive Garden running gag
  • Veronica's Pizza Fan Boy

See, at first I thought he'd ratted out the cheating, especially since I figured he was smart enough not to be first to bring a test up under the circumstances if he was cheating. But there was that later bit that I wasn't quite clear on what was happening.

At first I thought he got caught cheating, but how would the prof know so quickly that that was the case? I'm thinking he wrote a confession on the exam.