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tiggy - Oct 09, 2006 7:41:47 am PDT #3746 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

And why did Keith immediately assume that Kendall was in danger when he realized that they were being followed?

Because Liam was trying to find Kendall for "his share" of the money and Keith knows Liam isn't above killing people, and as far as Keith knows, no one else has any real interest in where he or Kendall would be.

that wasn't my take. i thought he figured out when he looked in the glovebox for the gun that he'd figured out that Cormac had taken it and Kendall was in trouble.


tiggy - Oct 09, 2006 7:43:40 am PDT #3747 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I said "figured out" way too many times in that sentence. i blame trying to be stealthy at work.


Kate P. - Oct 09, 2006 8:00:58 am PDT #3748 of 5730
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Because Liam was trying to find Kendall for "his share" of the money and Keith knows Liam isn't above killing people,

But it wasn't Liam who killed her, but Cormac. I got the sense that he thought she was in danger from Cormac specifically.

i thought he figured out when he looked in the glovebox for the gun that he'd figured out that Cormac had taken it and Kendall was in trouble.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the gun in the glove compartment. But then, why did he look for the gun in the first place? The way I read that scene, he knew Cormac was going to go after Kendall when he realized Vinnie was following them, and the missing gun was just extra visual confirmation for the audience.

I guess my followup question is: would Cormac have killed Kendall if Vinnie hadn't been following them? And if not, how did he (Cormac) know that they were being followed? I'm confused by how those two plot points seem to be related.


sj - Oct 09, 2006 8:03:23 am PDT #3749 of 5730
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

But then, why did he look for the gun in the first place?

I thought he was looking for the gun to use it to protect Kendall and possibly himself.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 09, 2006 8:06:42 am PDT #3750 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I thought he was looking for the gun to use it to protect Kendall and possibly himself.

I thought he was looking for the gun to protect all three of them, but when the gun was missing, he guessed Cormac might have bad intentions as well. If he hadn't found the pen, he might have just gone back and gotten shot. Or Cormac might have waited until he had the papers and had gone, but since Keith found the gun missing, he had to change his plan.


tiggy - Oct 09, 2006 8:14:22 am PDT #3751 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I thought he was looking for the gun because he'd found the bug and assumed that Liam was on their trail and he was going to use it to protect himself, Kendall and Cormac. he had no idea Cormac wanted Kendall dead until he found the gun missing and knew he'd had the opportunity to swipe it when Keith fell asleep while they were waiting on the tow truck guy.


Kalshane - Oct 09, 2006 8:28:04 am PDT #3752 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Okay, here's the best sense I can make of it.

Keith falls asleep waiting for tow truck, Cormac swipes the gun from Keith's glove box, presumably to kill Kendall once Keith leaves.

Keith and Cormac arrive at Kendall's hide out.

Keith goes out to get Cormac's papers. Finds Vinnie's pen and realizes they're been tracked, most-likely by Liam.

Goes to grab his gun from glove box to defend against Liam, finds it missing.

Keith has one of two assumptions: either he believes Liam has already followed them and swiped the gun so Keith will be defenseless or he realizes Cormac has stolen the gun and intends to kill Kendall.

Keith runs to the house, shouting to warn Kendall.

Cormac hears Keith yelling, assumes Keith knows what he's up to, and shoots Kendall and then tries to kill Keith. If Keith hadn't discovered the gun missing and started yelling, Cormac would likely have waited until Keith left before killing her.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 09, 2006 8:34:08 am PDT #3753 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

points two posts back


Kate P. - Oct 09, 2006 8:36:46 am PDT #3754 of 5730
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Okay, thanks y'all. That makes enough sense for me.


Kalshane - Oct 09, 2006 8:37:45 am PDT #3755 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

points two posts back

I know. I wasn't trying to steal anyone's thunder. It just seemed like we had a piece of the puzzle here and a piece of the puzzle there, and I was trying to get a completely spelled out theoretical chronology going. Apologies if it sounded like I was stepping on people's toes.