Early: So is it still her room when it's empty? Does the room, the thing, have purpose? Or do we -- what's the word? Simon: I really can't help you. Early: The plan is to take your sister. Get the reward, which is substantial. 'Imbue.' That's the word.

'Objects In Space'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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sumi - Apr 26, 2006 5:53:13 am PDT #2547 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

Ellen! So good to see you here.

Could Woody have given Chlamydia to Lucky to make the Lucky->Meghan->Duncan->Veronica chain even more disturbing?


Vonnie K - Apr 26, 2006 6:38:48 am PDT #2548 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

If he was involved in the crash, I'm gonna take a guess that it was inadvertantly (minion or associate acting independently) or tangentially (he, through Gia, was a target)

I like that. It would be tragic and godawful if the culprit was one of Woody's victims, someone who's been so damaged and furious and vent on payback that he just wanted to lash back and hurt Woody through killing Gia, and damn the consequences. That'd make a nice parallel with Weevil's storyline, re. the price of vengeance. And if I'm continuing with that particular train of thought, the only potential suspect with that particular motive, enough brains to carry it off, and the requisite amount of screentime this season, would be Beaver.

But I LIKE Beaver, damnit! OK, someone talk me out of my theory. (But dude, this is the kind of outcome that'd actually have me majorly emotionally involved in the whole proceedings.)


TomW - Apr 26, 2006 6:42:09 am PDT #2549 of 5730
"The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be."

But I LIKE Beaver, damnit! OK, someone talk me out of my theory.

No way. I've been on the "Beaver done it" train since "Ain't no magic mountain..."


Amy - Apr 26, 2006 6:47:38 am PDT #2550 of 5730
Because books.

I've been on the "Beaver done it" train since "Ain't no magic mountain..."

That is the one episode I missed this season. I saw only the tail end, with Logan and Hannah.


P.M. Marc - Apr 26, 2006 6:55:09 am PDT #2551 of 5730
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Since Chlamydia is the leading (preventable) cause of blindness, it’s obvious that Duncan got it from making sweet love with the woman who owned the green car (because the Fitzpatrics have to be involved in even the Chlamydia plotline). They had a bond because he didn’t always feel like she was judging his Argyll sweater-vests.

HEE! Ellen funny.

Chlamydia is known as the big silent STD. Way more than half the infected women are without symptoms, and about half the men as well.

What Vonnie said, though IIRC, it's one of the things they screen for at your first pre-natal exam, so Meg would have/should have been screened. But that's me applying reality to TV pregnancy, and really, I should have learned my lesson from Scully and the Alien Miracle Baby.

(Also, with Lucky, don't they screen you in the military? Or is that just when you sign up/once a year/whenever.)

(Which should still exclude Woody as the root of the not a flower chain.)


Vonnie K - Apr 26, 2006 7:05:11 am PDT #2552 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Also, with Lucky, don't they screen you in the military?

Googling "STD" and "military" leads to the this article, which appears to be CDC-sponsored: [link] One of the recommendations at the end include:

Expand outreach of STD prevention programs to people in military service, a population that is significantly affected by these diseases but has in the past been relatively neglected in national surveillance and control activities.

... by which I gather that they're probably not screening the military personnels for STD, at least in 2004 when this review was written.

Veronica Mars! Addictive *and* educational!


Ellen S. - Apr 26, 2006 7:14:32 am PDT #2553 of 5730
there is something to be said for the lyric and imperial attitude / believe that everything is for you until you discover that you are for it

I've been on the "Beaver done it" train since "Ain't no magic mountain..."

ahem... from OCTOBER of 2005: "I also love Beaver, which probably means that he will turn out to be Evil. Very Pretty Evil. And Little Dick will turn out to be his unwitting puppet."

the only potential suspect with that particular motive, enough brains to carry it off, and the requisite amount of screentime this season, would be Beaver.

I like this. (in the 'Noooooo!' sense of like) It would make Mac's cell phone receptor a good angsty plot point (although I'm sure it will be anyway). I'm not sure how it would work with him knowing Gia was in the limo, but I leave that sort of thinking to people who have attention spans.

Also wonder: what the Long Con Kendall was arrested for was (and if it's still going on) and if Meg’s parents were trying to help Woody shut up Lucky, or whether he had them over a barrel for some other reason.


P.M. Marc - Apr 26, 2006 7:15:36 am PDT #2554 of 5730
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

by which I gather that they're probably not screening the military personnels for STD, at least in 2004 when this review was written.

I know when my godson's dad signed up in '95, he had to go through some screening, but I guess once you're in, they let you go. Huh. (Also, it's possible that they didn't screen for anything beyond HIV. I'd have to ask him.)


Vonnie K - Apr 26, 2006 7:23:23 am PDT #2555 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I'm not sure how it would work with him knowing Gia was in the limo

Oooh, I didn't think of that part. That kiboshes my theory. Which I'm OK about because Cassidy = love.


Vonnie K - Apr 26, 2006 8:48:17 am PDT #2556 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Oh! I have another cracked theory.

From "Nobody Puts Baby in the Corner," we know Meg babysat for the Goodmans. And we knew the rich and powerful 09er dads had no compunction making a blatant pass at their babysitters from that episode. What if WOODY, not Lucky, is Meg's baby's father? (Here, I'd venture that there was at minimum coersion and possibly a rape involved.) And Meg told him and threatened exposure, and Woody found a convenient way to do away with her via the bus crash. Perhaps the phone call to Gia wasn't as much to ensure Gia was safe as to confirm that Meg was on the bus.

Not quite sure where Lucky fits in here, but it's a theory. I suspect I'll have a dozen more before the finale.