Discuss.

I think the character's a little flat, 'cause her only attributes are bitchiness and privilege. Then again, I went to high school with a gaggle of rich girls about which the same could be said, so there you go.

I always forget Madison's not a new character every time she appears. I think, "Oh yeah, it's that girl. The one with Mac's real parents." Because she is pretty much a generic bitch I just plain don't think about.

Also, someone confirm something for me: "Ain't No Magic Mountain High Enough" was the last new episode aired, right? I'm all off balance.

Oh, and to all the people who think Cassady caused the bus crash, I disagree. Will elaborate later, but while he's an ambitious little bastard with a vicious streak in him, I don't think he's a killer. His issues are with his family, not with anyone else, so far as we've seen.

But I do think he set up his father's fall. And is about to make a killing in real estate. So to speak.

Also, someone confirm something for me: "Ain't No Magic Mountain High Enough" was the last new episode aired, right?

Right.

But I do think he set up his father's fall.

Ooh. Intriguing. It's funny, because I took his dismay as genuine, which is a strike against his being a mass murderer who shows no remorse.

Ooh. Intriguing. It's funny, because I took his dismay as genuine, which is a strike against his being a mass murderer who shows no remorse.

What remorse? He was a little moody, but really, he showed more pain over not being able to go live with his mother than anything else. I suspect that really got to him.

But the rest? Not much, really. And he pretty deftly manipulated his and Dick's trsut funds into their hands, and then instantly had a mystery money-making plan, which we've seen very little of. We've also seen no real resentment of Veronica for taking his dad down. We expect that from Dick, because really, he has a sort of strobe-light attention span, but it would have been easy to play Cassady that way. He doesn't seem to care about it one way or the other.

And I do think he's willing to be vicious to protect himself, but I see no gain in committing murder for him. Not when he's deftly manipulated so many other events. If anything, it would seem a distraction.

Of course, we still don't know what the "remember Sally" line meant -- except perhaps to illustrate that Dick knows he shouldn't fuck with his little brother. I think Cassady, deep down, is cold and willing to hurt people -- particularly his family, who've hurt him. But I don't see him as a murderer. Not yet, anyway.

And I do think he's willing to be vicious to protect himself,

Okay, honestly, I think this is a bit of a stretch. He's vicious in a certain context: that of his family. Sure, he didn't show remorse about his father losing everything. He'd obviously been ignored, pushed around, and cowed in favor of Dick; when your only parent shows little to no regard for you, it's difficult to have any sympathy for them when they fuck up.

The trust fund thing? The new business thing? Those are this kid realizing that he has no one but himself to rely on--despite the brief glimmer of hope he put in his mother--and is therefore determined to make sure he is taken care of the way he has never been before. The desire for self-direction and control over one's life is an obvious psychological response in a younger sibling who is, for all intents and purposes, an orphan. With no one interested in him. Frankly, you see a very similar situation with Veronica, though her situation is different because she did have her dad and she's an only child. But they're making/made similar choices to protect themselves.

Frankly, the only thing close to vicious we've seen in Cass is in relation to his brother, and fuck, I'd be vicious too. He's only what, sixteen? It took me around that age to start distancing myself from my sister. Maybe a little earlier. The thing with the transvestite, holding the Sally thing and Cassidy's own money/company above Dick--that's just the first leverage he's ever had to keep from being ragged on, ignored, beaten up. He's finally using it. He's growing up in a way.

Does any of this remotely place him psychologically for a murder? Hardly. All of Cassidy's responses are based on circumstance, on a specific set of circumstances that all go back to his family. If it was his dad or Dick that was murdered, well. Different game altogether.

Okay, honestly, I think this is a bit of a stretch. He's vicious in a certain context: that of his family.

My point exactly. I think his family are the only ones who've earned that sort of ire from him. Certainly not the kids on the bus. We don't even see signs that kids at school pick on him.

So no, at this point I wholeheartedly don't believe he's responsible for the bus crash. I do still suspect that he hired Veronica knowing she'd bring down his father, though.

So no, at this point I wholeheartedly don't believe he's responsible for the bus crash. I do still suspect that he hired Veronica knowing she'd bring down his father, though.

Word on the first part, not as convinced on the second part. I think if he was to set his father up, then he would have been equally aware of all there was to lose, for him personally, by doing so. I mean, they had a pretty cushy life. And it's still cushy, but in a different way. Frankly, I'm not sure he would have had the huevos to do it--I think they're a fairly recent acquistion, post-father-letdown.

I don't think Beaver set his father up. If RT decided to write it that way going forward, he'd have to actually sell me on it. Any motive we saw for Cassidy hiring V in the first place had to do with the bitchiness of Kendall, and finding the condom wrapper under the couch.

Yeah, I haven't seen anything to indicate Beaver as intentionally bringing about his father's downfall. I saw it as he didn't like Kendall and it was an oppurtunity to prove to his dad that he wasn't useless.

I just watched VM.

Weevil - just somehow a favorite.

but this was a Logan episode. The character - is brilliant, and so well played.

Sadly, I had one or two teachers that went almost as far as the journalism teacher. They didn't say anything quite that blatent - but it was damn clear if you were favored or notfavored.

I'm not sure if he has always been this macavellian, but Beaver is the smart one in the family. Too bad it took years of being beaten down for this to manifest.