Kaylee: So, uh, how come you don't care where you're going? Book: 'Cause how you get there is the worthier part.

'Serenity'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Laura - Jan 05, 2006 4:01:43 am PST #1569 of 5730
Our wings are not tired.

The 18th has a repeat VM. Blast from the Past


meara - Jan 05, 2006 10:40:15 am PST #1570 of 5730

Cindy, Top Model probably takes some time off--they just finished the last one, and so it'll be a new "season" next--may not start for a while.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 05, 2006 2:20:56 pm PST #1571 of 5730
What is even happening?

Cindy, Top Model probably takes some time off--they just finished the last one, and so it'll be a new "season" next--may not start for a while.
Okay meara, because you made me fall in love with Joan of Arcadia, and look where that got me. I'm laughing at myself, because at first, I processed your current tag...
Stay Calm. Be Brave. Wait for the Signs.
...as part of your post.


meara - Jan 05, 2006 6:22:27 pm PST #1572 of 5730

It's OK, Cindy. Breathe, breathe. There will be signs...:)


Sophia Brooks - Jan 09, 2006 7:42:16 am PST #1573 of 5730
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I just finished watching Season One (loved it) and wondered if we know whether Lilly was older or younger than Duncan, Logan & Veronica? It is driving me nuts because it seems like they all should be in the same grade, but obviously they can't be!


sumi - Jan 09, 2006 7:46:05 am PST #1574 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!

We don't really know. .. I guess she must have been older than Veronica, Duncan and Logan who all seem to be the same age.


Kalshane - Jan 09, 2006 7:52:39 am PST #1575 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere (it might have even been linked from here) that Rob Thomas had said that Lilly was a year older than the rest of the gang.

But that confused me the first time through, as well. I originally thought Veronica and Lilly were the same age, and Duncan and Logan were a year older, though that was mostly colored by my own highschool experiences rather than anything in the show.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 09, 2006 7:54:30 am PST #1576 of 5730
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I feel like Lilly doesn't SEEM like she is older than Veronica-- I mean, when I was in high school I can't think of anyone who was "best friends" with someone not in their grade, unless they were cousins or something. Wouldn't Lilly have been best friends with Shelly Pomeroy (assuming Shelly is a senior) or something, instead of Veronica?

eta: I assumed what Kalshane assumed-- or perhaps that Duncan was older than all of them


Vonnie K - Jan 09, 2006 8:39:47 am PST #1577 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

The exact age of our fearsome foursome is a point of much debates among the Marsheads (Mars-holics? Marshettes?) This is from the timeline at marsinvestigations.net (of which P-C is one of the editors):

January to October 1987

Lilly is born. 1987-2003 is engraved on the memorial fountain. Since Lilly drove on the day of her murder, it means she had already turned 16, therefore she was born before October. (1.04 "The Wrath of Con")

February 13, 1987

Duncan is born. February 13, 1987 is listed as Duncan's birthdate on the Missing Person Link website. (Rick Pickett revealed in his interview that he made up Duncan's birth date. He was not aware that the writers had an official list with the birthdays of the characters, therefore this date should not be accepted as canon.) (1.20 "M.A.D.")

April 1987 to May 1988

Logan is born. (Logan tells Aaron he intends to leave once he turns 18 in 1.21 "A Trip to the Dentist".)

May 1987 to September 1987

Veronica is born. Since Lilly was alive at the time of Veronica's sweet 16 birthday party, it means Veronica was born before October 3, 1987. (1.01 "Pilot")

The timeline (contains spoilers up to the aired episode.)

I thought Lilly and Duncan were fraternal twins for the longest time; I do remember RT saying something about Lilly being older, but can't recall from where. Possibly one of his TV Guide interviews.


Polter-Cow - Jan 09, 2006 8:42:40 am PST #1578 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

It was in his TWoP interview. Also, there's a point last season where Veronica notes that Lilly would have been looking at colleges if she were still alive, which means she was at least a year ahead of her. You can also take Lilly's comment in "Lord of the Bling" about younger brothers to mean that Duncan is in fact her younger brother.