I said I'm sorry. I've made mistakes, but fear was never one of them.

Lilah ,'Conviction (1)'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Sep 21, 2005 3:12:07 pm PDT #9767 of 10002
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

t trying not to be nervous about the pill now that my NP and I just agreed today I should go back on it for a few months in hopes of convincing my body to stop having stupidly short cycles

Susan, the BCPs of today are so low-dose, compared with the early days of BCPs, that you have to be in a high-risk category for there to be a statistical chance of an adverse event. You don't smoke, you're under 35, and your BP is good. Trust me, you and your heart are going to be fine.

(You know how in the F2F thread you said you dig statistics, even of catastrophes? Think of this in that light. Statistically, you're golden.)


Burrell - Sep 21, 2005 3:12:37 pm PDT #9768 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Oh, bon, I revised a bit after you replied.

I've heard that claim too, but I also thought I'd heard that the evidence was scant.

Interesting. I know that one treatment for breast cancer is to suppress all the estrogen production. That would be pretty drastic, especially if they don't have strong evidence linking estrogen with breast cancer. However I think it's a WILD leap to go from suppressing estrogen in women with breast cancer to suppressing it in healthy women.


Susan W. - Sep 21, 2005 3:15:04 pm PDT #9769 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

You don't smoke, you're under 35, and your BP is good. Trust me, you and your heart are going to be fine.

Even if I'm 34 3/4 and my BP runs in the 130/70 range?


DavidS - Sep 21, 2005 3:16:23 pm PDT #9770 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Even if I'm 34 3/4 and my BP runs in the 130/70 range?

::waits patiently while Teppy looks up 911 in Seattle:


Steph L. - Sep 21, 2005 3:17:35 pm PDT #9771 of 10002
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Even if I'm 34 3/4 and my BP runs in the 130/70 range?

My god, you're a ticking time bomb! (Sorry; just trying a little levity.) t edit Heh. x-post with Smart-Ass Hecubus.

My feeling is, when you go to the grocery/Target/pharmacy, check your BP at the machines that are in the pharmacy section. If your BP stays at that level, you're still golden.


billytea - Sep 21, 2005 3:21:41 pm PDT #9772 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

My god, you're a ticking time bomb!

I want to wire up a time bomb to the speaking clock. "At the third stroke, it will be Three. Minutes. To Doomsday. Precisely. Dooot--Dooot--Dooot."


Topic!Cindy - Sep 21, 2005 3:21:58 pm PDT #9773 of 10002
What is even happening?

Interesting. I know that one treatment for breast cancer is to suppress all the estrogen production. That would be pretty drastic, especially if they don't have strong evidence linking estrogen with breast cancer.

I seem to recall some types of breast cancer are estrogen dependent, and some are not. I think it is something they can determine when biopsying the tumors.

However I think it's a WILD leap to go from suppressing estrogen in women with breast cancer to suppressing it in healthy women.


Trudy Booth - Sep 21, 2005 3:25:45 pm PDT #9774 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I seem to recall some types of breast cancer are estrogen dependent, and some are not. I think it is something they can determine when biopsying the tumors.

Me too.

[eta I just skimmed them both & didn't see Gladwell making the argument that the other guy thought he was making, but agree with other guy's initial assumption that less mucking about with the hormones, the better.]

Of course, food-wise we're exposed to incredible levels of hormones. We're already mucking in addition to the menstruating so much more than historically.


Susan W. - Sep 21, 2005 3:29:25 pm PDT #9775 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

OK, I won't worry. I brought up the bp issue when we talked about my options, and the NP thought I'd be fine. We're not thinking long-term, just 4-6 months in hopes my body will get the message that 19-21 day cycles are Not Good. (We're also testing me for anemia and to make sure nothing weird is going on hormonally. NP thinks maybe on the former--"you do look pale"--but no on the latter.)


Susan W. - Sep 21, 2005 3:32:08 pm PDT #9776 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

And on a totally different note:

So, husband-person. Paying any attention to the game? King Felix is pitching rather well again.