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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Susan W. - Sep 21, 2005 3:15:04 pm PDT #9769 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

You don't smoke, you're under 35, and your BP is good. Trust me, you and your heart are going to be fine.

Even if I'm 34 3/4 and my BP runs in the 130/70 range?


DavidS - Sep 21, 2005 3:16:23 pm PDT #9770 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Even if I'm 34 3/4 and my BP runs in the 130/70 range?

::waits patiently while Teppy looks up 911 in Seattle:


Steph L. - Sep 21, 2005 3:17:35 pm PDT #9771 of 10002
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Even if I'm 34 3/4 and my BP runs in the 130/70 range?

My god, you're a ticking time bomb! (Sorry; just trying a little levity.) t edit Heh. x-post with Smart-Ass Hecubus.

My feeling is, when you go to the grocery/Target/pharmacy, check your BP at the machines that are in the pharmacy section. If your BP stays at that level, you're still golden.


billytea - Sep 21, 2005 3:21:41 pm PDT #9772 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

My god, you're a ticking time bomb!

I want to wire up a time bomb to the speaking clock. "At the third stroke, it will be Three. Minutes. To Doomsday. Precisely. Dooot--Dooot--Dooot."


Topic!Cindy - Sep 21, 2005 3:21:58 pm PDT #9773 of 10002
What is even happening?

Interesting. I know that one treatment for breast cancer is to suppress all the estrogen production. That would be pretty drastic, especially if they don't have strong evidence linking estrogen with breast cancer.

I seem to recall some types of breast cancer are estrogen dependent, and some are not. I think it is something they can determine when biopsying the tumors.

However I think it's a WILD leap to go from suppressing estrogen in women with breast cancer to suppressing it in healthy women.


Trudy Booth - Sep 21, 2005 3:25:45 pm PDT #9774 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I seem to recall some types of breast cancer are estrogen dependent, and some are not. I think it is something they can determine when biopsying the tumors.

Me too.

[eta I just skimmed them both & didn't see Gladwell making the argument that the other guy thought he was making, but agree with other guy's initial assumption that less mucking about with the hormones, the better.]

Of course, food-wise we're exposed to incredible levels of hormones. We're already mucking in addition to the menstruating so much more than historically.


Susan W. - Sep 21, 2005 3:29:25 pm PDT #9775 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

OK, I won't worry. I brought up the bp issue when we talked about my options, and the NP thought I'd be fine. We're not thinking long-term, just 4-6 months in hopes my body will get the message that 19-21 day cycles are Not Good. (We're also testing me for anemia and to make sure nothing weird is going on hormonally. NP thinks maybe on the former--"you do look pale"--but no on the latter.)


Susan W. - Sep 21, 2005 3:32:08 pm PDT #9776 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

And on a totally different note:

So, husband-person. Paying any attention to the game? King Felix is pitching rather well again.


P.M. Marc - Sep 21, 2005 3:44:18 pm PDT #9777 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I've heard that claim too, but I also thought I'd heard that the evidence was scant. Which is why I went looking for the rebuttal.

Unfortunately for the rebuttal, it's on a site (well, site for a deceased Doctor) that Quackwatch lists. (The site actively pimps "natural" solutions, from what I could tell.)

Gladwell's article didn't actually tell me anything new about hormone research--my mother keeps up on that, so if I'm not tuning her out, I'm hearing about it--but I thought the history of the Pill and the RCC was quite interesting.


amych - Sep 21, 2005 3:48:10 pm PDT #9778 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I thought the history of the Pill and the RCC was quite interesting.

It was definitely the strongest part of the article -- I thought the rest fell into the same which-is-more-natural business that he started out questioning.

(And oddly, as I write this, I'm getting an ad for Seasonale. Five years after the article, it's the convenience factor that's selling.)