Aren't they something. They're like butterflies, or little pieces of wrapping paper blowing around.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Natter .38 Special  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


shrift - Sep 21, 2005 10:13:18 am PDT #9622 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I will post regular updates, unless the power goes out. But you have my cell phone.

If all else fails, we shall text message.


sarameg - Sep 21, 2005 10:17:55 am PDT #9623 of 10002

If all else fails, we shall text message.

Modern day mirror flashes....


dw - Sep 21, 2005 10:19:09 am PDT #9624 of 10002
Silence means security silence means approval

My best friend in the world I haven't heard from. I figure they'll either ride it out or drive up to Tulsa tomorrow.

Hopefully they'll get out. They're NW of the Loop, and while they're on high ground (house didn't flood during Allison), that part of Houston would be in the infamous NE quadrant.


tommyrot - Sep 21, 2005 10:19:17 am PDT #9625 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Hmmm....

LOS ANGELES -- A woman is suing ABC's reality show "Extreme Makeover" for unspecified damages, alleging its decision to cancel her appearance contributed to her sister's suicide.

In a lawsuit filed Sept. 9 in Los Angeles Superior Court, Deleese Williams, 30, of Conroe, Texas, claimed the producers subjected her to needless humiliation and goaded her sister, Kellie McGee, into insulting her appearance.

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IANAL, but it seems to me this woman would have a hard time proving that her association with the show led to her sister's suicide.


Kalshane - Sep 21, 2005 10:38:15 am PDT #9626 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Oh, and he's the scariest-ass driver I've even had the misfortune to ride with.

I have a friend who holds that title for me, though thankfully she's chilled the hell out over the last 7 years. Back in the day I once saw her tailgate someone so closely that they finally pulled off the road to let her by. Later that weekend we spent an hour speeding around Chicago trying to find the train station because even though she stopped for directions 5 times, she would only follow them for about three blocks before she decided "Oh, I know where I'm going now" and went her own way. Before finally reaching the train station we nearly had three accidents, narrowly missed more pedestrians and cyclists than I can count, ran half a dozen red lights, performed 4 U-turns and one O-turn (she tried to pull a U-ey and then realized we were on a one-way street.) I don't think I rode in her car again for 5 years after that.


bon bon - Sep 21, 2005 10:38:27 am PDT #9627 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The claim is that the producers encouraged her sister to call her ugly. I haven't reviewed the complaint or anything but it does seem plausible.


§ ita § - Sep 21, 2005 10:41:33 am PDT #9628 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are they going to have to prove that a reasonable person would have done what the producers asked and then committed suicide? Or was her mental state that apparent?


Fred Pete - Sep 21, 2005 10:41:34 am PDT #9629 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

I have a friend who holds that title for me

I had a former boss like that. More for his speed demon ways than anything else.

But he was, as kids today say, "a real piece of work" in other ways, too.


tommyrot - Sep 21, 2005 10:43:32 am PDT #9630 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is it common for an individual or group to be sued over someone's suicide? I was thinking the defense would argue along lines like, "How do you know what the reason was for someone's suicide" - do lawsuits like this succeed?


Atropa - Sep 21, 2005 10:44:16 am PDT #9631 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

In fact, I would go further: Your backyard is generally not a good place for a shallow grave.

People! Shallow graves are bad. A wood chipper and a secluded spot on a river is all you need. Just be sure to thoroughly hose down the wood chipper afterward.