Everybody plays each other. That's all anybody ever does. We play parts.

Saffron ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


billytea - Aug 23, 2005 7:22:23 pm PDT #736 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

1 is certainly a plausible value to assign, although one could argue that God doesn't necessarily create the universe, since some theists argue he has the freedom to refrain from doing so.

Yes, but in this context, it equates to saying that he has the freedom not to be all-loving. Which may be theologically of interest, but would offend against one of our premises here were he ever to make that choice. (One might argue that God needs both the ability to choose not to do good and the desire always to choose good in order to be considered as all-loving rather than just mechanical, but he still winds up doing good.)

So, God may not necessarily create the universe, but an all-loving God does.


§ ita § - Aug 23, 2005 7:26:23 pm PDT #737 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't see why an all-loving all-powerful god needs a universe. Can't he just love his navel?


Kat - Aug 23, 2005 7:28:34 pm PDT #738 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

So tempted to say, "What if his navel were the universe?"

But instead, I'll look at the pretty pink corduroy jacket I'll never own from title nine.

fixed my grammar error. stupid subjunctive.


billytea - Aug 23, 2005 7:29:23 pm PDT #739 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I don't see why an all-loving all-powerful god needs a universe. Can't he just love his navel?

Um, no, that would make him an all-selfish god.


Cass - Aug 23, 2005 7:29:37 pm PDT #740 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I wonder/suspect with an ALAP that we are the universe in his navel.

Mooooooom, Kat's in my brain again.


§ ita § - Aug 23, 2005 7:31:13 pm PDT #741 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Um, no, that would make him an all-selfish god.

How can an all loving god not love his navel? I dunno. Needing to create something to love strikes me as self-indulgent.


Kat - Aug 23, 2005 7:32:46 pm PDT #742 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

But Cass, it's so pretty and well organized in here.


Volans - Aug 23, 2005 7:33:34 pm PDT #743 of 10002
move out and draw fire

Grooming Politicians for Christ: [link]

Hannah Woody, for instance, came away from the institute's seminars confident that abolishing the Department of Education is not just a Republican goal, but also a Christian imperative.


Cass - Aug 23, 2005 7:33:42 pm PDT #744 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I don't know where you are but no way that is my brain. Unless you organized. In which case, thank you.


billytea - Aug 23, 2005 7:33:49 pm PDT #745 of 10002
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

How can an all loving god not love his navel? I dunno. Needing to create something to love strikes me as self-indulgent.
It's not about creating something to love, it's about beneficence. If he has the capacity to give, then being all-loving would imply that he does so.

When you give a gift, is it normally all about you or the person you're giving to? Why do you see it as self-indulgent?